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Old 08-10-2012, 02:50 PM   #1
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best 4.5" long arm lift kit?

Lots of choices out there. Looking for most complete and best for trail and road. Lots of diffrent opinions, just wanna do it right the first time.

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Old 08-10-2012, 03:02 PM   #2
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the best is the one you build after a lot of research and geometry optimization.

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Old 08-10-2012, 03:19 PM   #3
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Wife has the 5.5" RE long arm lift on hers and it rides real nice and flexes great. She loves the ride of her jeep and this is coming from a lady that has never had a jeep before. We took it to Colorado and did Elwood pass in it and had no problems and our kidneys didn't either
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Old 08-10-2012, 03:20 PM   #4
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Been researching a long time via jeep forums and magazines. I know i will have sye,1" motor mount lift and tummie tuck. I have 1" body lift dana 44 rear want the same for front some time soon. Just having a rough time deciding what company to by my kit from is all. Rough Country,Rubicon Express......so on and so on
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Old 08-10-2012, 03:22 PM   #5
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Nice ive been looking at Rubicon for a long time just wasnt sure seen quit alot of people talking bad but bushings they come with and what not.
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I ran a Rubicon Express 4.5" long-arm suspension for years and am now running a Currie 4" short arm suspension. The Currie outperforms the RE 4.5" LA in all areas that I consider important... especially since I no longer have long arms to get hung up on big trail obstacles like happened so often.
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Jerry,. I just looked at your website. Very nice sir and enjoyed the pictures and stories.
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I ran a Rubicon Express 4.5" long-arm suspension for years and am now running a Currie 4" short arm suspension. The Currie outperforms the RE 4.5" LA in all areas that I consider important... especially since I no longer have long arms to get hung up on big trail obstacles like happened so often.
Those RE long arms are much more vulnerable than the short arms on rocks. My question is, how can a Currie short arm kit outperform a Rubicon Express long arm system?

I have seen the RE 4.5" Superflex kit perform on the trail, and watching it flex was amazing. I thought the amount of droop and the stability of a long arm was superior to anything available on a short arm.
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Old 08-10-2012, 06:38 PM   #9
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So..... Maybe start out with the super flex and if i dont like that can be up graded to long arm at another time.
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I run the Teraflex 4" long arm kit, 1" BL, 1" MML, and TT and I'm very pleased with it. I have never got a lower control arm hung up on anything and I've wheeled some tough stuff here in Colorado.
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That's good to hear i am from Colorado as well long arm has my heart and i want to flex!
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Those RE long arms are much more vulnerable than the short arms on rocks. My question is, how can a Currie short arm kit outperform a Rubicon Express long arm system?

I have seen the RE 4.5" Superflex kit perform on the trail, and watching it flex was amazing. I thought the amount of droop and the stability of a long arm was superior to anything available on a short arm.
One of the worst things about long arms is they get hung up on obstacles too easily, as below. I was in Johnson Valley with friends who loved to give me crap about my RE long arms. Well, all day was a photo op for them since I kept getting hung up on the rocks and they grabbed a few photos.

One of those friends turned one of the photos of my rig hung up again into the below which I had to admit was pretty funny.

Not to mention the Johnnie Joints used in the Currie control arms are FAR superior and MUCH more rugged/reliable than the joints used in my previous RE arms.
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That's good to hear i am from Colorado as well long arm has my heart and i want to flex!
Where in Colorado? If your close or meet at a trail head one day you can ride with me and see how it rides, feels and flexes. I go up with guys that have the same amount of lift, same tire size, just on short arm kits and they have trouble getting over stuff I easily crawl over.

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One of the worst things about long arms is they get hung up on obstacles too easily, as below. I was in Johnson Valley with friends who loved to give me crap about my RE long arms. Well, all day was a photo op for them since I kept getting hung up on the rocks and they grabbed a few photos.

One of those friends turned one of the photos of my rig hung up again into the below which I had to admit was pretty funny.

Not to mention the Johnnie Joints used in the Currie control arms are FAR superior and MUCH more rugged/reliable than the joints used in my previous RE arms.
As you know each type of kit has its pros and cons. After weeks and weeks of researching I decided to go with the long arm kit and really glad I did. So far I have not had any issues with my long arms, not saying I never will, just haven't yet.

That is a pretty good pic btw lol
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If you want an awesome rig go talk to Jeff at Rokmen in Littleton. Jeff, the owner, can get you 2-3 inches of lift and turning 37's with not clearance issues. That's great for keeping center of gravity low. If I had to do it over again that's the way I'd go.
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That's good to hear i am from Colorado as well long arm has my heart and i want to flex!
Short arms and 33s will do at least 90% of the trails in Colorado.
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Im located in loveland co. And please im one of a kind from my crew. Need some trail hogs in my life!
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I'm running the RE 4.5" Short Arm and it's great...
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My question is, how can a Currie short arm kit outperform a Rubicon Express long arm system?
Let's start here.....Why do you think it can't?

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I have seen the RE 4.5" Superflex kit perform on the trail, and watching it flex was amazing. I thought the amount of droop and the stability of a long arm was superior to anything available on a short arm.
What does arm length have to do with the amount of droop afforded or the stability of a rig?
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I am not an expert on suspension geometry and there are other factors to consider, such as reduced ground clearance with longer lower control arms.

That said, The longer the control arm, the less fore and aft movement of the axle within the same amount of vertical travel.



I've heard several people, including Jerry, state that a stock JK is superior offroad to a stock TJ. One of the changes is the JK has longer control arms. For the sake of argument, is that one of the reasons for the JK's superiority?

I'm just trying to get a dialog going here, not trying to troll or flame anyone.
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I've heard several people, including Jerry, state that a stock JK is superior offroad to a stock TJ.
Me? I think that had to have been a different Jerry. That isn't to say I don't think the JK is good off road, I just don't believe I would have ever said a JK is superior offroad to a TJ.
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Me? I think that had to have been a different Jerry. That isn't to say I don't think the JK is good off road, I just don't believe I would have ever said a JK is superior offroad to a TJ.
It might not have been you, but I think it was. Something along the lines of a stock TJ is more capable than a stock CJ and a stock JK is more capable than a stock TJ. Something like that.

Also, I like Imped's solution to reducing the angles of the lower control arms. It makes sense.
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It might not have been you, but I think it was. Something along the lines of a stock TJ is more capable than a stock CJ and a stock JK is more capable than a stock TJ. Something like that.
Definitely not me. And actually, I don't believe a JK is better offroad than a TJ. It's no worse offroad than a TJ but I see nothing about a JK that makes it better offroad.
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Definitely not me. And actually, I don't believe a JK is better offroad than a TJ. It's no worse offroad than a TJ but I see nothing about a JK that makes it better offroad.
Hell, I probably dreamt it
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Also, I like Imped's solution to reducing the angles of the lower control arms. It makes sense.
Thank you. Now you know why I asked the initial question.

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