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Old 12-16-2010, 09:16 AM   #1
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Best bet for a used 4:55 ring and pinion / rear gear set...

 
Hey guys. I'm new to this so bear with me please. I bought a 2000 tj sport 5 speed with a rear locker and it was lurching almost like the throttle cable was messed up or like when someone doesnt know how to drive stick... The other day I get some machine gun type noise coming from the rear like a piece of steel was bouncing around in there... We opened it up and it turns out that the seller unloaded it to me with a few teeth out of the pinion, as 4 teeth were gone, but only one was in the pumpkin... So, here's where me not having experience comes in.. I tried to cross ref the #'s on the ring etc but no go, and the seller had no clue what all was done to it... The way I understand gearing I can just count the teeth and divide... I counted 9 on the pinion and 41 on the ring, so 4:55 right?


Please point me in the right direction for a used 4:55 for cheap. I def need a good deal because I already bought a used stock 3:07 set assuming that the stockers where the ones that were still in there...Id LOVE to be able to get a used one this weekend in a perfect world.... My number is 607.259.2587 if ya need it! Thanks and happy holidays!

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Id like to buy them asap.. My number is 607.259.2587 ! Thanks and happy holidays!

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so your in the latex business right As for the gears, that is one of those things that should be purchased new. Mainly because the parts are not very expensive but the labor to install them is.
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lol, Ive been know to locate latex from time to time.

I'm actually into this Jeep for too much already, and am selling it. Plus with my buddy doing the labor I should make out well. I just don't want to be spending another 200-300 bucks on new ones, ya know?
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And I counted 9 teeth on the pinion and 41 on the ring, so that = 4:55 , so 4:56 right? Not 4:55?
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Old 12-16-2010, 10:30 AM   #6
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4.56 is what you're looking for. Used ones in decent condition may be hard to find. If you have a local 4x4 club, start there. They also turn up on Ebay occasionally. If you have to buy new, Yukon gears can usually be found pretty cheap. The key for any gear set is a good install. Please don't just slap them in there and transfer the problem to the new owner.
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Old 12-16-2010, 11:04 AM   #7
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Don't go with used gears. They are much harder to setup correctly and the installer will probably charge you extra to install them. Used gears have been work hardened where they meshed previously and the installer must precisely reset them to bed exactly the same location. Used gears are a PITA to set up and not worth the very minor cost savings.
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Thanks fellas, I'll go new then. Anywhere I should look for the best price? It looks like motive or nitro ones on Ebay are the cheapest.... how's the quality???
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Also, I'm damn sure I have the Dana 35, how can I be positive though?

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There's a steel tag on one of the diff cover bolts that has raised info like a credit card. D35 is round and D44 clearly has a ring gear under the diff cover. There are illustrations online to show the differences.
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PS you can get ring/pinion gears for like 100 bucks. It's not a real hard install if you have some sense. Use shims to SLIGHTLY shift the chuck from left to right and remove as much of the backlash as you can. You want a little, but too much will crack the ring gear.
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PS you can get ring/pinion gears for like 100 bucks. It's not a real hard install if you have some sense. Use shims to SLIGHTLY shift the chuck from left to right and remove as much of the backlash as you can. You want a little, but too much will crack the ring gear.
Sense and patience above all. Doing gears isn't dificult, but it is super time consuming - and you need a few tools to do it right. Keep in mind that unless you have access to a bunch of carrier and pinion shims, you're going to need to buy an install kit which can cost about as much as the gears. You also need access to a press and maybe a bearing puller. It's worth spending the $12 on a Harbor Freight dial indicator to set the backlash right. You'll also need a micrometer to measure the shims you're installing. Oh and an inch-pound torque wrench for pinion preload. I'm not trying to scare you away; I just want to make sure you have a realistic expectation of the cost. The first time I did my own install, it ended up being about $500 in parts and tools for two axles.

Hopefully your buddy has done gears before and already has everything.
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ya, his answer sounds much more sensible if you've never done such a thing before
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Old 12-16-2010, 06:14 PM   #14
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Motive are good gears, Nitro, Yukon, tend to be noisy.
Since it has 4.56 gears I find it hard to believe the seller didn't know anything about the gears. Those are not stock gears so they had them installed.
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I would report the sale to Ebay. He cheated you. You will never convince me that he did not know you had a fragged gearbox.

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