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Old 10-26-2010, 01:36 PM   #1
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My 01 sport has 33's x12.5 with stock brakes. I took it offloading pretty rough the other day and when I finished up, my jeep pulled to the right because the rotor was glowing red and had expanded closer to the pads. After replacing the rotors, calipers, and pads, I can smell the brakes after my commutes on road.
I heard this is common with heavy tires. Thinkin about upgrading when I need to replace them again. Slotted rotor, bigger calipers, etc...
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Old 10-26-2010, 01:43 PM   #2
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I just bought a set of powerstop sloted rotors for about $120 shipped. Hopefully i'll get to try them out tonight...

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Old 10-26-2010, 01:45 PM   #3
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Forget using slotted, drilled, or dimpled rotors to improve braking on a Jeep. They won't help, not in the least. They look cool and all the ricers run them but they don't really help. They used to be needed to help get rid of gasses caused by the off-gassing of brake pads that could prevent contact between the pads and rotors but modern brake pads no longer have that issue.

The only real way to help improve braking is with a more aggressive brake pad like the "Magic Black Pads" from Savvy Offroad, EBC Yellow Stuff brake pads, or the outstanding Big Brake kit from powerbrakes hydroboosts vacuum boosters everything for your extreme braking needs which is about $800 that replaces the entire single-piston brake assembly with a much stronger system complete with a dual-piston brake caliper.

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Old 10-26-2010, 04:37 PM   #4
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I installed EBC Green only because yellow were not available and a pair of NAPA rotors on my 8.8" rear and it made a difference in stopping compared to what ever was on it when I bought the rear.
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Old 10-26-2010, 06:06 PM   #5
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i ran EBC yellow's and Centric rotors and now run Vanco's 15" kit. the EBC/Centric combo is much better than stock, but its nowhere near as good at the Vanco kit.

get the vanco kit.
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Old 02-01-2011, 10:55 AM   #6
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whoa, thats alot of coin, I drive truck for a living, maybe just increasing your following distance will do until you can afford them. For inspection I need to replace my pads and rotors, i want to go with EBC yellow or green but not sure what rotor's to use. How cheap is too cheap for a rotor? auto parts warehouse has them for as cheap as 22 bucks a rotor!
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Stay with a good quality brand like Centric Premium and their slightly higher cost will be more than offset by the added resistance to warping and other problems associated with cheaper rotors. Stay with all cast too, avoid the light weight composite warp-prone rotors like the early TJs came with.
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Old 02-01-2011, 12:22 PM   #8
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The Vanco kit, it's the best.. Stay away from vented or drilled, more surface area is deff better..
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Old 02-01-2011, 01:49 PM   #9
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Sounds like this thread has gone off in the wrong direction.

"""""I heard this is common with heavy tires. """""
No, otherwise most of us would have the same problem.
And why doesn't the other side overheat too? Surely the tires on both sides are the same size?

"""""I took it offloading pretty rough the other day and when I finished up, my jeep pulled to the right because the rotor was glowing red and had expanded closer to the pads."""""

It didn't do it before off-roading?
Something happened off-roading - like a brake line got hit, pinched, or collapsed - a close inspection of the lines should reveal what/where. It's trapping pressure on that wheel. Sometimes a rubber brake line comes apart internally (an impact can cause it,) leaving a little flap inside that acts like a check valve, holding a little pressure. It only takes about 2lbs pressure to make the pads touch enough to cause your complaint.
A new brake line is not expensive.
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Sounds like this thread has gone off in the wrong direction.

"""""I heard this is common with heavy tires. """""
No, otherwise most of us would have the same problem.
And why doesn't the other side overheat too? Surely the tires on both sides are the same size?

"""""I took it offloading pretty rough the other day and when I finished up, my jeep pulled to the right because the rotor was glowing red and had expanded closer to the pads."""""

It didn't do it before off-roading?
Something happened off-roading - like a brake line got hit, pinched, or collapsed - a close inspection of the lines should reveal what/where. It's trapping pressure on that wheel. Sometimes a rubber brake line comes apart internally (an impact can cause it,) leaving a little flap inside that acts like a check valve, holding a little pressure. It only takes about 2lbs pressure to make the pads touch enough to cause your complaint.
A new brake line is not expensive.
Yea! Good call..
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It could just be a bad caliper. The calipers on all Jeeps (TJ,XJ,YJ.WJ) are junk and are known for getting stuck.
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x2 on Vanco....i have the 15" kit with 33x12.50s, stops better than bone stock with 30s.
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Old 02-01-2011, 09:39 PM   #13
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WOW: Brakes - - I say go with SOLID cast rotors - - and elcheapo non ceramic pads. Ceramic pads last longer but are so hard they eat rotors. Good non slotted rotors do not deform easily and have more surface area than slotted. The purpose of slotted is to dissipate heat faster which is not usually a Jeeper's big need. (Frequent long periods of braking at high speed...if you are doing that in your jeep...) I like the el cheapo's because they seem to last decent and I usually screw em up with mud and grit before I wear em out.

But: If you got 35's and regularly hit the road as a DD..... I'd listen to what Jerry says and get the high dollar stuff. 10' of stopping distance might be the difference between banging a bumper or totalling your jeep. as in most threads here...it just depends on what you are gonna do with it....
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Old 02-01-2011, 09:50 PM   #14
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Since he is having the trouble on only one side, is the recommendation to only put the high speed stuff on just that side?
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It could just be a bad caliper. The calipers on all Jeeps (TJ,XJ,YJ.WJ) are junk and are known for getting stuck.
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Old 02-02-2011, 11:35 AM   #16
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if you replaced the calipers, pads, rotors not sure why it would be draggin on one side, did you put some grease on the caliper pins and the mating surfaces? are their any pinched lines, maybe proportioning valve, not sure
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Old 02-02-2011, 11:58 AM   #17
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I would go with the AEV brake kit over the vanco just because I wouldn't want people grinding down my stock knuckles to fit the calipers on. The AEV kit has custom made knuckles and only costs a few hundred more.

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