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Old 04-23-2013, 01:19 AM   #1
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Best Jeep Magazine

Looking for some good reading material for this summer while lounging outside. What is the best magazine? I want to keep it geared more so to Jeep. I might be in a wee bit-o trouble if I pick up another hobby. Is Jp magazine any good?

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Crawl Magazine features exceptionally well built rigs, solid tech, and great hardcore wheeling photos. While not 100% Jeep, it does seem to be Jeep oriented enough to make it my favorite Jeep & offroad magazine.

Jp Magazine is more about trying but but not succeeding at being cool... not to mention their tech is not always accurate or even always truly tech. Jp Magazine does a better job at describing how to survive shark attacks or bar fights (trying to be cool) , choose sunglasses, etc. than how to do much of anything beyond bolting something into place, rehash tired old tire comparisons, or similarly boring same old stuff.

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i just subscribed to JP magazine after posting a similar question on this forum months ago, overwhelmingly the response was good for JP magazine, have not got my 1st mag yet but I am looking forward to it.
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JP is OK if you know what to sift through, but I'm partially biased since I know the editor. Plus, they cover vintage Jeep stuff, which was my passion for 15 years.
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I just got to work and glanced at the June issue of JP, and on the cover- yet another tire article...They do seem to have a lot of tire articles..
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Crawl Magazine features exceptionally well built rigs, solid tech, and great hardcore wheeling photos. While not 100% Jeep, it does seem to be Jeep oriented enough to make it my favorite Jeep & offroad magazine.

Jp Magazine is more about trying but but not succeeding at being cool... not to mention their tech is not always accurate or even always truly tech. Jp Magazine does a better job at describing how to survive shark attacks or bar fights (trying to be cool) , choose sunglasses, etc. than how to do much of anything beyond bolting something into place, rehash tired old tire comparisons, or similarly boring same old stuff.
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Crawl is an excellent magazine; any other magazine's "tech" will seem like a joke after reading an edition of Crawl. Plus the photography is absolutely beautiful.
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Jp is full of articles that promote their vendors products, complete with total BS, biased 'results' and general crap. I quit reading it because I couldn't stand the bs.
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To be honest, you'll be done with JP magazine within the first day. If you read slow. There are good articles, but not very many of them in each issue.
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yeah, I don't even read my JP mags when they arrive anymore. Have a two year subscription that will expire soon.
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Years ago I received JP magazine. After a year I quit looking at it and cancelled the subscription. The sophmoronic humor is boorish, and their tech articles became tirelessly repetitive, as they catered to anyone willing to buy add space in their rag... I believe the final straw is when they hired a tired old porno actress to add her two cents to the rag...
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i just subscribed to JP magazine after posting a similar question on this forum months ago, overwhelmingly the response was good for JP magazine...
Really? Here on WF? I sure don't remember any thread where Jp Magazine got much in the way of anything but grief as most of the comments in this thread are reflecting.

That skank porn actress Jp hired several years ago mentioned in Rubicondon53's was the straw that broke the camel's back so far as I was concerned. Jp Magazine just has no class IMHO.
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I just ordered my crawl sub today.
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Jp is full of articles that promote their vendors products, complete with total BS, biased 'results' and general crap. I quit reading it because I couldn't stand the bs.
That's the impression I've gotten from them. Biased articles based on who pays for advertising.
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I have to put a word in for JP because my rig is in it this month....
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I have to put a word in for JP because my rig is in it this month....
Where da link at?
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I like JP because I like the humor and for me Crawl is fun to look at but so far beyond anything I ever do that the tech is nothing I can really relate to. Also a big fan of 4Wheel Drive & Sport Utility Magazine, not all Jeeps, but I like seeing the other trucks once in awhile.
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That's the impression I've gotten from them. Biased articles based on who pays for advertising.
when they did some 'dyno' test on some aftermarket junk they quoted the results, but didn't attach a single dyno sheet. REALLY? You go through all that effort and don't publish a single dyno sheet? Everybody loved dyno sheets, even if they can be faked, they can't be faked as easy as saying it made X hp. Once I started counting the complete lies about products in one article and it was well over 20. They do a disservice to the jeep community (unless you are a vendor that pays them for ads).
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Where da link at?
I don't know if you can see the article electronically unless you subscribe but it's in Readers Rides. If you want more pics, just google "Jillys Jeep".
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Coming in from the Mustang world, I can appreciate vendor/ad-space biased articles.

But I will say, ironically enough when I decided to purchase my first jeep last month, I found a copy of Jp May 2013 issue still on a shelf. Contained within was a "Used Jeep Guide" which I found useful in bringing me up to speed. I'm thinking as a new Jeep owner the rag will be useful for a while, but like in the Mustang world after a while all you get is either extreme builds or slanted articles.
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I have read several issues of Crawl. If you live in Southern California and are into competitive 4x4 events of several kinds, or you want to build an extreme tubeframe rig, their mag is the best. If you want to play in Johnson Valley, it's great as well. But some of us would drive for two days to a different state, rather than do the same trail twice.

If you want to learn about vintage Jeeps, or you want to understand what the best lift for a production Jeep is under $1000, then Jp is your best choice. The other mag that plays in that space is Four Wheeler, which I have been reading since about 1975. It was Four Wheeler which captured my imagination with an article on rock crawling the Dusy-Ershim Trail in 1987, the year after I moved to California from the East Coast. Then in 1988 I busted a Dana 30 ring-and-pinion in my 1967 Jeepster on Bald Mountain Jeep Route near the beginning of that trail at Courtright Reservoir.

I have been getting both magazines in electronic versions over the last year or so. I have over two dozen issues in the active memory on my Nook Color. As far as I know, Crawl isn't there yet. But I don't really care, as Crawl has very little of relevence to those of us driving production-based Jeeps.
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But I don't really care, as Crawl has very little of relevence to those of us driving production-based Jeeps.
That might have some relevance on parts of the mag, but most of the tech articles are very much applicable to what many of us do. Some of the more recent articles that come to mind dealt with mig vs tig, 14-bolt basics, weatherpak wiring, motor mounts for Jeeps, at-home beadlock building, increasing shock travel, etc...

If you drive a stock or close to stock vehicle that sees little other than fire roads then yes it's probably quite boring to you. But, it has many good articles in it that cover more topics than "Installing X brand's lift kit". My vehicle is far from an Ultra-4 type vehicle, but you can still even take bits and pieces of those types of vehicles and apply them to what you're building.
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Sure Crawl's tech is sometimes beyond what I am likely to be doing to my TJ but who wants to read tech that is so basic, like Jp Magazine's is, that you don't learn anything new. Jp focuses on bolt-on stuff or how they managed to drive a beater back after buying it at some desert hermit's junkyard.

There isn't much to be learned from Jp Magazine unless you are a complete beginner at everything. Not to mention their tech isn't always accurate. Just one stupid thing that bugs me, Jp still incorrectly thinks an Optima is a gel cell battery. That is just another part of tech they don't have a clue about... electrical stuff. And that goofy-looking clown who writes their electrical column in the back of Jp reminds me of a backwoods know-nothing who writes to the level of a 4th grader.

What continues to impress me in Crawl is the quality of the writing. Yes, the writing... as in they know how to properly construct a sentence while making a story exciting & giving a feeling for what it was like to have been at whatever the article was discussing. Editor John Herrick & Assistant Editor Larry Nickell can construct/write something that appeals to something besides the juvenile in us. I get the feeling Jp is writing to the juvenile side of its readers.

To me, Crawl is a cut above the rest of the 4x4 magazines... it actually has some class which I appreciate.
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how they managed to drive a beater back after buying it at some desert hermit's junkyard.
I like stories like this. For those of us that are into vintage Jeeps and appreciate the history, nostalgia, and what early Jeeps that built the reputation stand for, those are more than just "beaters".
This is just my opinion, obviously. Most folks on this forum don't know much or are interested in anything "Jeep" except for the TJ.
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"......There isn't much to be learned from Jp Magazine unless you are a complete beginner at everything. ......."


that would be myself. just looking for light Jeep reading, history and background, and the basics as an owner of a bone stock TJ that will remain bone stock. based on opinions above, sounds like i picked the right magazine.
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That's the impression I've gotten from them. Biased articles based on who pays for advertising.
It's true for JP and true for just about all the rest as well. Those that are vendors know how it works. They call for free product in exhange for "ink". In that regard, Crawl is no different than the rest and I know for a fact that the crew at Crawl will support the theft of intellectual property by running a knock-off product simply because the advertiser supplied the item for free.
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JP magazine I too let it expire after barely reading it for years and hoping they would get a clue but.........................
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Thanks for the feedback on Crawl Magazine. I put my order in for a subscription today. Looking forward to receiving the first issue. I will keep my JP subscription though too. I have enjoyed some of the articles and some of the rescues on old Jeeps. I also believe it or not like the ads. Plus I like almost anything Jeep, so I am easy to please.

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