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Old 05-04-2012, 09:07 AM   #1
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Best Locker???

So the plan is to get a super 35 kit with 4.88 gears for the jeep (98 2.5) soon. Anybody got any good tips on the best locker to use. I'm kinda leaning towards the ox locker. I really like the manual shift that way i know its locked or unlocked. Anybody had good luck with these or with a regular Detroit??

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Ox lockers are harder to engage since its a cable activated and can be hard get it just right so it Doesnt hang up I have a detriot locker in my rear and it takes getting use too the super 35 kit can also come with the abr that's what I'd go with

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Really depends what you want. Ox and Detroit are both reliable and beefy products. They both have positives and negatives.

Ox: Positives: fully selectable, strong as nails, can be operated by cable or air now. Negatives: cable activated (some people don't like this setup), cable is a pain to set up for some, expensive (especially if you don't have on board air already).

Detroit: Postives: bullet proof, always on no driver error, proven time and time again for decades, less expensive. Negatives: always on (finicky in the snow and rain as a DD).

All comes down to what you want and how much you want to spend. Since you live in Alabama I take it you don't have to worry about snow.
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Ive always had detroits and loved them, but now in my LJ I have e-lockers front and rear and they are the sh%t, Ive got them wired independant of the jeep cpu so i can engage them when ever i want in any gear, very nice.
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Old 05-04-2012, 09:52 AM   #5
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I love the Detroit Locker but I'd go for an ARB Air Locker since you guys can get icy roads there in Alabama.
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True-Trac all the way!!! super reliable, cheap and easy on ur drive train! DO IT!
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Old 05-04-2012, 06:17 PM   #7
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I didn't know about the ox locker being hard to engage. That may make me lean to the Detroit. It's a little cheaper then a ARB but since the OX is hard to engage and is about the same price as a ARB i may go with a ARB, Thx for the tips guys..preciate it.
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I had a detroit truetrac and i did not care for it it was ok in the mud and sand but will not lock up 100% so i pulled it out and went back in with a d44 and arb and love it
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Truetracs are not lockers, they are limited slip differentials. BIG difference. I had front and rear Truetracs 13-14 years ago but they didn't do much (anything?) for me on the very uneven rocky trails I like. Swapping them for front and rear lockers made a night and day improvement in how well the Jeep did offroad. Truetracs excel on slick road surfaces and muddy dirt roads but when tires start lifting up off the ground on uneven trails, they don't do much for you... which is the nature of the limited slip differential beast.
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I have had a super 35 and OX locker for ten years. Love the combo...the first OX lockers were hard to engage but they fixed that before I bought mine. Never a problem and like they said...strong. They now have the option to engage the OX with the cable, air, or electric. And you can get a emergency lock mechanism if any of those fail. Nothing like that is available for ARB. I had a Detroit locker first and did not care for it on our windy country roads.
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Why not run an 8.8, geared correctly with an ARB. In the end, the 35 is still a 35. The 8.8 is stonger and cheaper than a 44. We are talking about $250 or so. The super 35 is close to 1k, no?
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No non fabricator is going to be able to even come CLOSE to being able to get a Ford 8.8 in and working in a TJ for only $250. Unless he can fabricate his own brackets, just the brackets to get it TJ ready are more than that. Not to mention a raw 8.8 by itself can cost that which will also likely have to be regeared too.
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My vote is for Eton E locker
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I have used most lockers over the years including "Lincoln Lockers". I have Eaton E Lockers front and rear in my TJ and have had good luck with them. I agree with keeping away from auto lockers or a spool if you drive on ice or snow.
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The control of a selectable locker is awesome where you go with Enton, ARB, OX
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No non fabricator is going to be able to even come CLOSE to being able to get a Ford 8.8 in and working in a TJ for only $250. Unless he can fabricate his own brackets, just the brackets to get it TJ ready are more than that. Not to mention a raw 8.8 by itself can cost that which will also likely have to be regeared too.
That is what I meant to say, you can buy an 8.8 for 250 but then the rest is on you. You can an 8.8 from east coast gear ready to bolt for cheaper than the super 35.
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[QUOTE=Mortalis5509;2338279]That is what I meant to say, you can buy an 8.8 for 250 but then the rest is on you. You can an 8.8 from east coast gear ready to bolt for cheaper than the super 35.[/QUOTE

I know a super 35 kit from Quadratec is like $1400 with a ARB or Ox locker. So a 8.8 is stronger then a Dana 35 with the upgraded axles? I'm going no bigger than 33's (that's what they all say until they can't go up a trail and then it's on to 35's ) and i don't plan doing any extreme rock crawling. I usually ride trails mild to medium skill range (not because i can't do the hard ones...just never had a rig built for those) (and i'm not one of those that after about 5 or 10 beers i'm like yee haw watch this with my pretty well stock ride bouncing through a rock garden even though that is pretty entertaining to watch ).
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If your going with super 35, you can't go wrong with ARB or Eaton e-locker. The super 35 will still carry you on 35's (if you decide on bigger tires down the road). You would still need to upgrade your front shafts on the d30, along with brakes, steering, lift, etc.
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I ran the Super 35 with Detroit in a '97 Sport on 35's with hardtop, winch, Go There Engineering front bumper (heavy), custom rear bumper with 35" spare. I never heard or felt any bad manners with the Detroit. You honestly would not know it was there. BUT, I drove with front sway bars disconnected alot because I didn't feel like reconnecting them, so therefore I drove cautiously. As for the strength, I did bend an axel shaft once when the jeep got to bouncing in a bind, but the splines, shaft and locker remained in tact. The shaft was replaced at no charge.
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You can an 8.8 from east coast gear ready to bolt for cheaper than the super 35.
No you can't......The Super 35 comes with a locker and shafts for $1,069 at Quadratec. An 8.8 with a Detroit, no gears, brakes, flange adapter and so forth is $1,340 at East Coast... While the 8.8 is stronger, it certainly is not cheaper when you add the extras needed to make it work properly.
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No you can't......The Super 35 comes with a locker and shafts for $1,069 at Quadratec. An 8.8 with a Detroit, no gears, brakes, flange adapter and so forth is $1,340 at East Coast... While the 8.8 is stronger, it certainly is not cheaper when you add the extras needed to make it work properly.
Thank you! The 8.8 may be stronger but there is no way as stated earlier by Jerry that you can get it built and running under your TJ by a shop like ECGS for anything under 1500, and that's with used axles, and factory gears, and factory brakes.
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What ever way you decide to go, buy the locker you want for the spline count and axles you will end up with. Bigger is better when it comes to a D35. Keep in mind that putting disk brakes on your D35 will keep a broken axle from walking away and help get you off the trail.

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