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Old 07-07-2013, 08:54 PM   #1
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Best long arm upgrade???

I have a 2004 wrangler x, it has a zone 4 inch lift on it now. Im looking to do a long arm upgrade, is it worth it? And what kind would you guys prefer ? Thank you for your input!

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Old 07-07-2013, 08:58 PM   #2
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No, not in my opinion. If you want to upgrade suspension, look into replacing your control arms with ones of higher quality. My choice would be the savvy control arms with currie Johnny joints. I plan on slowly replacing my stock arms with these. Long arms tend to get hung up on the trail.
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Old 07-07-2013, 09:34 PM   #3
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Ok thank you, I will check that out!
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Old 07-07-2013, 10:12 PM   #4
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Ok thank you, I will check that out!
Another good choice in arms
http://www.metalcloak.com/Duroflex-S...Kit-p/7154.htm
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IMO I like rock Krawler they are stupid strong and have a lifetime abuse garentee nut anything beside RC is good
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IMO I like rock Krawler they are stupid strong and have a lifetime abuse garentee nut anything beside RC is good
Solid bar is also excessively heavy and overkill. The same job can be accomplished using lighter, relatively stronger materials. And what about the ends? There's more to an arm than just the link material.....
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Solid bar is also excessively heavy and overkill. The same job can be accomplished using lighter, relatively stronger materials. And what about the ends? There's more to an arm than just the link material.....
Well I believe in doing it once... I no currie and genright and metalcloak are great brands. .... I went with rockkrawler because I need heavy and overkill cuz I managed to break shit things somehow when not even wheeling..... Build it break it rebuild it....o and I got a killer deal on the 3.5 X factor long arm less then 2200
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Well I believe in doing it once... I no currie and genright and metalcloak are great brands. .... I went with rockkrawler because I need heavy and overkill cuz I managed to break shit things somehow when not even wheeling..... Build it break it rebuild it....o and I got a killer deal on the 3.5 X factor long arm less then 2200
So....what about those ends?
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Old 07-08-2013, 08:57 AM   #9
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Whether you wanna call the arms long, mid, or short, the best set up is a custom one. No off the shelf kit would do for me at least. Start reading:
http://www.wranglerforum.com/f5/long...ts-228510.html
Also read the threads posted in this thread.
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So....what about those ends?
Well man I ll deal with those after deployment
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Whether you wanna call the arms long, mid, or short, the best set up is a custom one. No off the shelf kit would do for me at least. Start reading:
http://www.wranglerforum.com/f5/long...ts-228510.html
Also read the threads posted in this thread.
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Well man I ll deal with those after deployment
So you are recommending something you don't have any experience with yet?

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From what I ve read they are the only flaw in the RK lift ... But no experience
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But to be honest with ya it's my jeep not yours that what makes jeeps awesome building it your own vision ... And I got more important things to focus on right now then what joints suck and which ones don't ... I ve read your jeep thread it's awesome ... I mean it's pure jeep porn .... But what can I do too fix the problem of those pesky joints
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Usnrubi143, you could buy different arms. What's more expensive? Buying expensive arms once? It buying so-so joints/arms, then buying the nice ones when those wear out? I'm opting for option number one as my plan of action. And if you have a way to cut DOM tubing and tap the inside, you can just buy MC or Currie joints preassembled and make your own to whatever specs you want.

But seriously, read that thread I posted and the one below. They'll give you an idea (a start to the research you should be doing) of what it takes to have a properly functioning suspension. From arm angles and proper geometry, to how a joint should function.

http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f9/ho...ks-up-1482467/
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That's a good thread.
It's one of my favorites. Learned alot from it and refer to it when I've got a question. That and it's kind of a fun read every now and then when I'm bored
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Thanks man I look Into that tread buti m just looking forward driving my jeep after 9 months
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I bet. It kills me being away from mine for 1 month at a time while I'm at school. Thanks for your service.
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Thanks man that's agood thread but I ll keep mine joints till they fail the. I'll worry bout it after 6 k in parts I m redy to see it and drive it
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I have been reading more In to the long arm lifts. And for where I go in my jeep it's not worth getting a long arm. The short arm preforms just fine. I just want to upgrade and get something new. Lol I am looking into maybe lockers now?? Thanks guys
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I am going with a Terraflex monster lower Longarm getting it installed this week.
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I have been reading more In to the long arm lifts. And for where I go in my jeep it's not worth getting a long arm. The short arm preforms just fine. I just want to upgrade and get something new. Lol I am looking into maybe lockers now?? Thanks guys
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Not another good choice, but the BEST choice when it comes to SA suspensions.

Also, nothing wrong with long or custom arms. In fact you can have just as good or better clearance underneath when your not stuck to using STRAIGHT ARMS. We are doing a custom long arm project using Metal Cloaks Duroflex joints and LONG ARMS. But the lower long arms will be bent/curved to maximize clearance. Since the duroflex bushings as self centering you can do this unlike with Currie JJ's or heims.
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I am going with a Terraflex monster lower Longarm getting it installed this week.
I hope you dont have problems with the rod ends.I got tired of rebuilding the bushings that I threw them away and got some Currie JJ.
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Not another good choice, but the BEST choice when it comes to SA suspensions.

Also, nothing wrong with long or custom arms. In fact you can have just as good or better clearance underneath when your not stuck to using STRAIGHT ARMS. We are doing a custom long arm project using Metal Cloaks Duroflex joints and LONG ARMS. But the lower long arms will be bent/curved to maximize clearance. Since the duroflex bushings as self centering you can do this unlike with Currie JJ's or heims.
i'm not understanding how you would get more clearance. currently the most common thing that i scrape is my rear LCA frame side brackets. This is the reason I want to lift them up higher and run a custom mid-arm. I havent seen a single off the shelf long arm kit that offers more clearance over the stock brackets, and those are in a bad location, IMHO
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I hope you dont have problems with the rod ends.I got tired of rebuilding the bushings that I threw them away and got some Currie JJ.
Lifetime warranty on them Terraflex had issues with the earlier model of ends and now garrantee them for life.
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i'm not understanding how you would get more clearance. currently the most common thing that i scrape is my rear LCA frame side brackets. This is the reason I want to lift them up higher and run a custom mid-arm. I havent seen a single off the shelf long arm kit that offers more clearance over the stock brackets, and those are in a bad location, IMHO
The stock LCA frame brackets hang really low. Even typical LA LCA frame brackets give more clearance(Use Clayton for instance). Regardless, we are making custom mounts that tuck the frame ca brackets higher up more inline with the frame. I groupe mid/custom length arms in with long arms. IMO anything longer than stock becomes a mid/long/custom setup.
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Well? Where is your Jeep lacking?
I guess I'm not really lacking in height, here's what I got now.
4 inch Zone lift
Front and rear bumpers
Smittybuilt winch
Rick sliders.
33 stt's

What suggestions do you have?
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I guess I'm not really lacking in height, here's what I got now.
4 inch Zone lift
Front and rear bumpers
Smittybuilt winch
Rick sliders.
33 stt's

What suggestions do you have?
Thank you!
I think what Imped is trying to get at is...what do you need your jeep to do that it ISNT doing? If I am not mistaken, he is still referring to your current suspension setup.

Many guys will come in and say "long arms are the best." Then you have the guys that say "short arms are the only way to do it." In reality, they all have their place...but it comes down to what YOU need out of your rig.
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I have an auto due to I need to drive with hand controls because I was in an accident 2 years ago and it left me paralyzed from waist down. When trying to climb up on something or going up steep rocky hills I feel like I'm giving it gas and it's not moving . And I am just looking to upgrade something on the jeep.
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