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Old 03-05-2012, 10:10 AM   #1
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Best upgrade for the buck on a stock tj

Hey all, I'm fairly new to jeeping. I went Offroad once last summer, got my first scratch (from a tree) and have been hooked since. I have a tj and I just got 31's on it, what should be my next upgrade. I'm in college so funds can be tight, but what upgrade would have the most benefit for the money? Also I'm trying to keep it somewhat close to stock. Any ideas would be great thanks

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a 2" budget boost
recovery gear
a decent sound system
rhinoline the interior
a front auto locker
Rims......them make the Jeep look completly diffrent
bumpers with a front winch mount.

options are endless but most depend on your use,wants and needs

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Old 03-05-2012, 10:27 AM   #3
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a 2" budget boost
recovery gear
a decent sound system
rhinoline the interior
a front auto locker
Rims......them make the Jeep look completly diffrent
bumpers with a front winch mount.

options are endless but most depend on your use,wants and needs
I agree with everything but the budget boost... If you want a mild lift save up and do it right IMO.
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Everything I've done to my jeep and the winch is still by far my favorite. That's what I recommend first
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I was thinking like quick disconnects, but I wasn't sure how much of a benefit I would get with with stock suspension. Also my radio works fine and is semi waterproof. I would love a winch but a little pricy
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Hey all, I'm fairly new to jeeping. I went Offroad once last summer, got my first scratch (from a tree) and have been hooked since. I have a tj and I just got 31's on it, what should be my next upgrade. I'm in college so funds can be tight, but what upgrade would have the most benefit for the money? Also I'm trying to keep it somewhat close to stock. Any ideas would be great thanks
1.25" Body Lift, 1" Motor Mount Lift & UnderCoverFab engine skid is a good place to start. Save your money for college and wheel the snot out of it. Most importantly, research, research, research before buying anything. Read, search, then read more, then search again. Learn about your suspension, your steering, your drivetrain and get a Factory Service Manual. You'll be a whole lot happier with the way you spend your money if you learn why and where to spend it.
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As stated..a Budget Boost lift. Well worth $100 and will still closely maintain the ride it has now.

I think my favorite inexpensive mod has been a $35 Thrush Welded muffler....engine temps dropped about 5 degrees and it sounds cool.
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1.25" body lift, 1" motor mount lift & undercoverfab engine skid is a good place to start. Save your money for college and wheel the snot out of it. Most importantly, research, research, research before buying anything. Read, search, then read more, then search again. Learn about your suspension, your steering, your drivetrain and get a factory service manual. You'll be a whole lot happier with the way you spend your money if you learn why and where to spend it.
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JKS quick disconnects , 2" front, 1.75" rear prothane budget boost, 1" body lift, Then you will be ready for 33" tires for your next set of rubber,, no sense in replacing what you have till they are worn out .. In that order... I'm taking for granted that you have recovery straps, and a safety kit.. I have done a lot of other upgrades, winch, skids, armor etc etc, but those first three things I mentioned are a very good platform for all that comes after... I'll share a shot of mine, it's in the driveway, ;(. But goes most places the big boys go.. and anywhere we want to go!!
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I agree with everything but the budget boost... If you want a mild lift save up and do it right IMO.
This would be good advice if the OP hadn't just purchased 31" tires... but he has. Between that fact and his proclamation of a tight budget, we can safely assume he's not about to go out and buy another set of larger tires... so our recommendations are centered around him continuing to run 31" tires.

With that in mind, a 2" budget boost will give added clearance and will work very well with 31" tires, and it is extremely affordable. If money is tight, the budget boost plus a set of swaybar disconnects are all he'd need to do to his suspension for quite some time.

After that, it depends where/how he'll go wheeling. If he likes to play on rocks like I do, my next suggestion is body armor. I recommend starting with rocker guards; after that, look at upgraded bumpers, a steering box skid plate, a front diff guard of some sort and an upgraded gas tank skid plate. When you go rock crawling, low riders need all the armor they can get.

If on the other hand he's just gonna bombing down gravel roads and mud holes, the winch makes sense as the next major investment.
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While not everyone will agree and it will depend entirely on your budget; a Teralow 4:1 transfer case upgrade is IMO the single best bang for your buck mod you can do.

Even if you keep the rest of your Jeep stock the lower gears will greatly increase you capability and keep your speed down on trails which might otherwise do a bit of damage to your rig.

$1300 spent on lower gears is better than $1300 of budget boost, tires, winch and armor.
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1.25" Body Lift, 1" Motor Mount Lift & UnderCoverFab engine skid is a good place to start. Save your money for college and wheel the snot out of it. Most importantly, research, research, research before buying anything. Read, search, then read more, then search again. Learn about your suspension, your steering, your drivetrain and get a Factory Service Manual. You'll be a whole lot happier with the way you spend your money if you learn why and where to spend it.
This is the best advice in this thread. Ignore everyone telling you to upgrade things like bumpers. While those cosmetic upgrades might make your jeep "look cool", I'd imagine you're more worried about making your Jeep more capable with the limited money you have.
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I say remove the milk jugs it's the cheapest mod you can do since your on a budge a bb lift would be worth it as well
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Chrome grill inserts and dress up kits JOKING!

I was in your shoes years ago. I'd budget boost that thang and make friends with someone with a bigger rig and tow straps! Also, you couldn't go wrong with at least having someone tack you on a couple of rock solid recovery points. Whip out an angle grinder and hack off stuff! Lose the stock bumper ends and cut your fender flares if you want. Go nuts! Make it your own!
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I say remove the milk jugs it's the cheapest mod you can do since your on a budge a bb lift would be worth it as well
You posted the same thing while I was typing mine!
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Best bang for the buck? How about free?
Get as much experience as you can wheeling it the way it is, in the long run, that experience will help you more than anything.

I see a guys that run basically stock jeeps far out-drive modified rigs all the time. It's obvious when you see guys with well built rigs that have never bothered to gain the experience in a stock rig, cool rigs but little experience and stuck frequently.
Then I see guys running 31's that truly amaze me with their driving capabilities.

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This is the best advice in this thread. Ignore everyone telling you to upgrade things like bumpers. While those cosmetic upgrades might make your jeep "look cool", I'd imagine you're more worried about making your Jeep more capable with the limited money you have.
I'm curious, I went up with the 1" body lift., easy fit, and no lead to lift the engine. I just had to reposition the fan shroud, and add the little kit to extend the transfer case linkage. I didn't even have to disconnect the fuel tank filler tube.. Why 1.25" if all that other stuff needs to be done? Just curious, not judging
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I'm curious, I went up with the 1" body lift., easy fit, and no lead to lift the engine. I just had to reposition the fan shroud, and add the little kit to extend the transfer case linkage. I didn't even have to disconnect the fuel tank filler tube.. Why 1.25" if all that other stuff needs to be done? Just curious, not judging

By "all that other stuff" I assume you mean the 1" MML? I never said it was needed, just that what Unlimited said was good advice. I've got a 1.25" BL and didn't need to do "all that other stuff" until I installed a tummy tuck.

I could throw it right back and ask why a cheap MML isn't a good idea? Is it a bad thing to move your oil pan up a bit more out of the way, or to help your rear driveshaft angle a bit?

You're focusing on what isn't important. 1" or 1.25", it really doesn't matter. Do some research and you'll see why on some models 1.25" is a bit more desirable than just 1" without even thinking about the motor mounts. Even with the MML, you may still have to adjust the fan shroud. It's certainly not uncommon if you have a tummy tuck, I had to adjust the fan shroud on mine after installing the Savvy UA which comes with a MML.
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The first thing I did after I bought my Jeep was to join a local Jeep club. One of the run requirements is to have a working CB to communicate with others on the trail. That is the first thing I bought.

I ran it stock for awhile, learned about my Jeep, and what I wanted to do to it. A stock Jeep can go many places.
There is quite a difference in what I thought I wanted to do to it when I bought it, compared to the way it sits now.
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You posted the same thing while I was typing mine!
Haha was so surprised when I opened the thread and the first suggestion didn't say remove the jugs! Usually that's the first one up there
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ZJ tie rod
Oil pan skid
Steering box skid
1" body lift
1" MML
Flat skid

Wheel it.

You could also box in the lower control arm mounts at the axle and cut out some 3/16" thick, 2" diameter washers with a 9/16" center hole and weld them to the LCA frame mounts. Trim off the excess and you just strengthened those mounts where it matters, gained about 1", and created a better sliding profile.
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For me, (low budget) the plan was add a lunchbox to the front. Performance wise it's likely the best bang for the buck. My out of pocket is 296.00 with a lube locker, gear oil, and a new spartan. I have wheeled stock as an 02 TJ comes and have stayed up with some heavily modified rigs. The locker will be installed by me next week (YouTube instructions and other forum posts)! JKS discos would be a best value for lots of trail riding... otherwise I just crawl under and unbolt. (not as quick but it works)
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By "all that other stuff" I assume you mean the 1" MML? I never said it was needed, just that what Unlimited said was good advice. I've got a 1.25" BL and didn't need to do "all that other stuff" until I installed a tummy tuck.

I could throw it right back and ask why a cheap MML isn't a good idea? Is it a bad thing to move your oil pan up a bit more out of the way, or to help your rear driveshaft angle a bit?

You're focusing on what isn't important. 1" or 1.25", it really doesn't matter. Do some research and you'll see why on some models 1.25" is a bit more desirable than just 1" without even thinking about the motor mounts. Even with the MML, you may still have to adjust the fan shroud. It's certainly not uncommon if you have a tummy tuck, I had to adjust the fan shroud on mine after installing the Savvy UA which comes with a MML.
Dude,,,, I'm not sure why you're attacking me? The best way to do research is to ask questions. That 1/4 inch extra makes the job just little more difficult. The author of this thread is new to all of this, I am not, and with a rubicon drive train, and only 1.75 " lift in the rear, my driveline angle is fine.. 3 or 4" up then yes, MML makes great sense.. I've done a ton of research on the tummy tuck, and for the type of wheelin we do, it just doesn't make much sense. That a ton of money, and labor to gain only 1.5 to 2" of clearance.. If I did a lot of rock crawling, then yes, I would have had one long ago.. and Yes, I 'm very well researched, 30 years worth, and I'd never suggest to a new jeep guy or gal, on a student budget, to concern themselves with MMLs on the outside chance that they would want to, or afford to, go up 4 plus inches. Or become a rock crawler and desire a tummy tuck..
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a 2" budget boost
recovery gear
a decent sound system
rhinoline the interior
a front auto locker
Rims......them make the Jeep look completly diffrent
bumpers with a front winch mount.

options are endless but most depend on your use,wants and needs
With hell does a sound system have to do with making more capable off road?
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Your plan is to go somewhere right? Don't worry so much about a lift right now. Learning how to navigate a stock Jeep first will make you a better off road driver. Forward motion is what you need more than a loud stereo or flashy wheels. If you can spare the change get your rear axle locked and get a winch, if you can't afford both go with the locker and get a strap so that you can be extracted if you manage to get stuck with a locker.
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Ignore everyone telling you to upgrade things like bumpers. While those cosmetic upgrades might make your jeep "look cool", I'd imagine you're more worried about making your Jeep more capable with the limited money you have.
I was one of "those people" who suggested upgraded bumpers, and I explained (a) why I was suggesting them and (b) why they might not be important to the OP. I gave him an alternative so he can decide what is best for his situation.

In case I wasn't clear, I did not suggest them to make his Jeep look cool. Instead, I suggested them to prevent his Jeep from suffering significant body damage while rock crawling. The OP has already damaged his paint job; I was simply reminding him that he can minimize further body damage if that is his preference (and if rocks are in his Jeep's future).
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Wow all the info was great, the "real" reason I have to keep my jeep near stock is to keep the parents happy and helping a little with school. I agree I need to get to know my jeep Offroad. There are plenty off 4 and 5 rated trail fairly close to me. I plan to spend to spend time on the rocks so still up in the air on mods. Not to sound snobish but my jeep drives nice and I want to keep it looking tasteful.

Also someone mentioned a jeep club, should I join one cause there always seems to be trail runs on the Colorado section of the forum

Also I never really thought of disconnecting sway bars, do you dissconnect front and back or just front. And what do you do with the bar afterwards
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Wow all the info was great, the "real" reason I have to keep my jeep near stock is to keep the parents happy and helping a little with school. I agree I need to get to know my jeep Offroad. There are plenty off 4 and 5 rated trail fairly close to me. I plan to spend to spend time on the rocks so still up in the air on mods. Not to sound snobish but my jeep drives nice and I want to keep it looking tasteful.

Also someone mentioned a jeep club, should I join one cause there always seems to be trail runs on the Colorado section of the forum

Also I never really thought of disconnecting sway bars, do you dissconnect front and back or just front. And what do you do with the bar afterwards
Where in Colorado are you & where are you going to school? Colorado has some of the best wheeling in the country, especially for Jeeps & 4x4s of all sizes and skill levels. If you're close, I'd be happy to meet up and chat about wheeling & such. A small group of us usually get out wheeling and camping a few times a month during the season. PM me if interested.
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Disconnect the front only (not much if any benefit to the rear) and air down and your jeep will crawl. 12-15 psi will make a huge difference.
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Dude,,,, I'm not sure why you're attacking me? The best way to do research is to ask questions. That 1/4 inch extra makes the job just little more difficult. The author of this thread is new to all of this, I am not, and with a rubicon drive train, and only 1.75 " lift in the rear, my driveline angle is fine.. 3 or 4" up then yes, MML makes great sense.. I've done a ton of research on the tummy tuck, and for the type of wheelin we do, it just doesn't make much sense. That a ton of money, and labor to gain only 1.5 to 2" of clearance.. If I did a lot of rock crawling, then yes, I would have had one long ago.. and Yes, I 'm very well researched, 30 years worth, and I'd never suggest to a new jeep guy or gal, on a student budget, to concern themselves with MMLs on the outside chance that they would want to, or afford to, go up 4 plus inches. Or become a rock crawler and desire a tummy tuck..
Wasn't "attacking" you; tone doesn't translate well across the internet, I'd think you'd realize that by now with all that experience. And you're still not getting it, or maybe I'm not. I fail to see where there is a ton of labor involved, even for someone with limited mechanical ability. The very first BL/MML I installed on a Jeep took me about an hour.

Much of what you're saying is you're opinion, and doesn't really apply across the board. Yes, it does apply to you, but then again you're not the OP which is who the post was meant for.

Even still, like I said previously, that 1/4" isn't a big deal or what anyone here should be focusing on. You're making a mountain out of a molehill.

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