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Old 09-13-2010, 08:19 PM   #1
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Best way for 33"s

I really cant decide which way to go with my jeep. I am pretty set on 33" tires and Iam not sure which way to go. Should I do bb and body lift or just a suspension? I think the only thing that scares me about a susp lift are stories of the death wobble. iam not saying that is what causes it just that i have a fear of it increasing the chances of it happening to me. I know this sounds ridiculous. I dont think I will be doing to much extreme off roading but it could and probably will happen eventually. Just looking for some input thanks

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Old 09-13-2010, 08:27 PM   #2
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If you plan on wheeling your jeep you should go with at least 3" of lift.
Maybe combine a 2" spring lift with a 1" body lift. This way you'll stay away from having to replace driveshaft and SYE kit to correct the pinion angle.

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Any 4x4 can get death wobble, unlifted, stock, it doesn't matter.... It's just a symptom of worn out suspension parts. Has nothing to do with lifting.

The best way to accommodate 33's on a TJ is with a 3.5-4" spring lift.. The next best way is with a 3" spring lift and a 1-1.5" body lift, and the least recommended way is with spacers+body lift or spacers with trimmed flares. You can fit them with no lift if you go flat fendered.... Ah Wranglers, legos for grownups.... The last few ways will cripple the suspension somewhat, limiting your flex offroad. Well, except maybe the flatties, Idk, that they would really limit you much, but spacers will. It's up to you, and your wallet which way you want to go.

And........ you'll get a million other opinions and options that I haven't thought of yet....
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Old 09-13-2010, 08:28 PM   #4
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Suspension is always better, the biggest body lift I would put on is a 1 inch, cuz after that they dont look good, just my opinion though.
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If you want performance do a suspension lift. If you want looks go the other way.

Personally I hate body lifts and don't let death wobble stories scare you. I've never had an issue and understand there is a differance between death wobble and having a tire out of balance or your alignment off. Just get it alligned immediatly after putting the lift on.

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Old 09-13-2010, 08:31 PM   #6
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dang 4 post in under 1 min. thats pretty good record
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IMO, a BB is never the way to go if you have the money for a suspension lift. If you are scared of death wobble, just read and inform yourself on what causes, and cures it. All jeeps, including stock, can get death wobble. I had death wobble when I purchased my jeep and it was easily fixed by replacing the worn track bar. If it was me I would get a suspension lift. You can easily clear 33's with a 2.5" spring and shock lift, and a 1-1.25" BL. Then, when you get some more money saved, start buying things that will prevent DW from ever occurring. Adjustable track bars, SYE, and shorter drive shaft (with 2.5" of lift you more than likely will not need the SYE and drive shaft though). Hope this helps.
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haha, wow 5 post before I could even post mine... I'm sure you will get the info you need.
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Yeah if you have the money go Susp. So far I've got 33s with just a 1.25" body lift. I weny with it first because it'll allow for a tummy tuck and a raised gas tank skid. Plus it was the cheapest and fastest way to get my 33" on until I can afford my lift. I know that if I do any amount of wheeling it'll rub bad.

Right now I'm debating on either the 2.5" RE Rear Radius Arm Long Arm lift and high lining the hood or just going with a 3.5" RE Long Arm without the high lines. I really want to keep my COG low.
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I went with the 2 inch OME suspension lift, 3/4 inch spacer up front and the 1.25 inch body lift so I could put in the 1 inch MML. Gives 4 inches in front and 3.25 in the rear which makes it sit nice. No need for the transfer case to be lowered or any of the other drive train mods. Drives like a new Jeep.
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I went with the 2 inch OME suspension lift, 3/4 inch spacer up front and the 1.25 inch body lift so I could put in the 1 inch MML. Gives 4 inches in front and 3.25 in the rear which makes it sit nice. No need for the transfer case to be lowered or any of the other drive train mods. Drives like a new Jeep.
How do the OME shocks and springs ride? soft, stiff, perfect? I am looking hard at that same lift, but I have heavy bumpers, winch, and hard top. Is it going to sag, or will it hold with the heavy load shocks?
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I just put the Zone 4" lift with 33" tires and I love it. $529 suspension lift with all the brackets, etc included. Nothing else to buy.
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How do the OME shocks and springs ride? soft, stiff, perfect? I am looking hard at that same lift, but I have heavy bumpers, winch, and hard top. Is it going to sag, or will it hold with the heavy load shocks?
My Jeep rides as good as the day it came off the line, if not better. I went with the standard spring rates as I do not have heavy bumpers, winches, etc. They recommend the heavy rates springs if you want to add all the accessories you are mentioning here. It is a nice set up. Look at DPG as they offer all the versions.
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Awsome, sounds like that's the way I'm going to be going then. Thanks
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I really cant decide which way to go with my jeep. I am pretty set on 33" tires and Iam not sure which way to go. Should I do bb and body lift or just a suspension? I think the only thing that scares me about a susp lift are stories of the death wobble. iam not saying that is what causes it just that i have a fear of it increasing the chances of it happening to me. I know this sounds ridiculous. I dont think I will be doing to much extreme off roading but it could and probably will happen eventually. Just looking for some input thanks

If you are going to off road your jeep then suspension if you are just going for looks then the body lift is the cheapest route.

I have always been told that the body lift will give you the look your wanting and at the same time give you the result you may not want if you off road it in the wrong spot. I would take it to a person who specializes in suspensions and talk to them and get some info to keep you better informed. They are always glad to help. Thats what I did and I know more about my jeep and what it can and can not handle now.
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How do the OME shocks and springs ride? soft, stiff, perfect? I am looking hard at that same lift, but I have heavy bumpers, winch, and hard top. Is it going to sag, or will it hold with the heavy load shocks?
Mine rides better than factory with 2.5 OME and 33s.

One thing to keep in mind when you up the tire size, you'll also up the width. That means you'll need to decrease the backspacing on your rig either by changing the rims, or adding spacers.
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Custom buy a 2.5" set-up!
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Well, with a 2.5 all you need is springs and shocks... What recomendations do you have? Why not just get the OME?
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Well, with a 2.5 all you need is springs and shocks... What recomendations do you have? Why not just get the OME?
With the package I put together you get the springs, shocks, steering damper, bump stops, rear track bar bracket and the transfer case lowering pucks. I tossed that which is why I did the MML and the small body lift.
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What website did you use, or shop did you go to? Why the need for the trackbar bracket with only 2.5?
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What website did you use, or shop did you go to? Why the need for the trackbar bracket with only 2.5?
I bought my material from 4 wheel parts. I knew what I wanted from researching. The track bar will keep the back axle centered even with the 2 inch lift, otherwise one of your tires will stick out more on one side than the other. Look at DPG Offroad at the Deluxe Wrangler Kit. That is basically the exact same thing I have only I did mine in a couple of steps. I added the body lift and motor mount lift and disconnects a short time after the suspension lift. I had my local mechanic put in the springs for me, the rest I did myself. Although I did have him weld my track bar bracket to the axle.
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I went with the 2 inch OME suspension lift, 3/4 inch spacer up front and the 1.25 inch body lift so I could put in the 1 inch MML. Gives 4 inches in front and 3.25 in the rear which makes it sit nice. No need for the transfer case to be lowered or any of the other drive train mods. Drives like a new Jeep.
Exactly what I did. Only I used Pro Comp springs and Rubicon Express mono tube shocks. But if I did it over I'd go OME as well. I also trimmed a little off the flares. You will also want 3.5 to 4" backspaced wheels to avoid rubbing if you go with a 12.5" wide tire.

Here's an idea how it looks. No rubbing even at full flex.


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You can also install spring spacers cheap and easy install
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Thanks all for the info. Its a lot to process. I've got some thinking to do. Slipped my mind about the wheel backspacing.
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I just got a 2" spring spacer and a 1" body lift last week. I thought about a spring lift but went the cheap route instead.
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I just got a 2" spring spacer and a 1" body lift last week. I thought about a spring lift but went the cheap route instead.
Do u regret it?
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So far you have got some good advice but it really depends on how much you want to spend. The backspacing on your wheels is an important factor. If you are sticking with stock rims a 12.5" tire will rub like crazy even a 11.5" will rub as well. You also have to think about your gearing, what do you currently have? This is another cost you have to think about. Most guys suggest 4.56 or at least 4.10 w/ 33's.
I went with 3.5"RE Super Flex kit w/ adjustable track bars and adjustable lower control arms. It wasn't the cheapest option but rides great and was the perfect size lift for running 33's. But by the time you factor in new rims,tires and gearing and suspension lift it becomes a very expensive way to go. I don't want to talk you out of 33's but just keep in mind all the other costs that come with them. This is my 3rd Jeep and finally have started building it the way I have always wanted to. Good luck and enjoy the Jeep.
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Gumpy has some nice important info that has been overlooked in all the posts. Gearing and back spacing does indeed play a big part of what you are looking for so you need to know what you really want here.

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