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Old 10-18-2011, 08:46 AM   #1
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bf goodrich mud terrain in snow?

hi guys, I'm looking for some advice from you experienced winter jeepers?
I've had my tj since June and LOVE it.
winter will be here soon (Ireland) and my jeep is running 31inch bf Goodrich mud terrains. are these ok on snowy/icy roads? (narrow, bendy, uphill and downhill type off roads)
would it be worth shelling out on all terrains?
my tyres have excellent threat on them?
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Old 10-18-2011, 11:20 AM   #2
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i guess your mud terrains are actually more aggressive on snow and ice than all terrain. i'd suggest studded snow tires for icy conditions.

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Old 10-18-2011, 11:24 AM   #3
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i guess your mud terrains are actually more aggressive on snow and ice than all terrain. i'd suggest studded snow tires for icy conditions.
Studded snows are illegal in a lot of states over here.
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Your mud terrains will be ok, they will work better if you have sipes cut into the tread blocks. Here in the U.S., many tire shops have that ability which costs $10-15 per tire. I've had two sets of BFG Mud Terrains siped and it really helps on slick road or trail surfaces. Sipes really make a big improvement in traction on icy roads.
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I had the mud terrains, they were not good on an icy road at all I guess with about 80% tread on them, so I got new tires & they seem better. I wouldn't say my new ones are the greatest in snow or ice but we don't get a lot here & they are much better than the mud terrains (Goodyear mtr Kevlar)
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Old 10-18-2011, 11:35 AM   #6
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If you don't drive appropriately you will always have issues. I went through two winters with balding pro comp muds and was just fine. I expect my new MTR/Ks to be no different or better.
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I have had both the BFG mud terrain and the BFG all terrain in the Maine, US winter. The all terrains certainly pack with snow A LOT easier then the mud terrain. I went to the Mud Terrains and was way more pleased with the winter driving capabilities, they seem to clean themselves out better.
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Studded snows are illegal in a lot of states over here.
But OP is from the Ireland.
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Dedicated winter tires are best for ice and hardpack snow, but siping your muds will help some. Muds also get MUCH worse on light snow (<3") and ice as they wear.
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I heard the old style mud terrains didn't do well in the snow but the newer KM2 mud terrains did me good last year. I live 2k feet up a nasty mountain and would air them down.
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I drove a winter in my old Jeep with KM2s. They did very well except on ice, and a light dusting of snow. I didn't mind driving them in Northeast Ohio winter.
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State troopers in Ohio, New York, Pennsylvania, and many other northern states, do not use " snow tires " waste of money. .. Nothing except studs do well on ice..and even they aren't that good.. Driving in winter is all about what is between your ears,, Nuff said
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BTW,,, I have the same opinion of front wheel drive cars.... The big six have been selling us front wheel drive cars, not because they're better in adverse weather, but because they are less expensive to build,, I know many an officer that is lamenting the loss of the Crown Vic, rear wheel drive cruiser..
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State troopers in Ohio, New York, Pennsylvania, and many other northern states, do not use " snow tires " waste of money. .. Nothing except studs do well on ice..and even they aren't that good.. Driving in winter is all about what is between your ears,, Nuff said
Yup! This is true. I've lived in Ohio my entire life, and nobody in my household ever bought snow tires. I will never buy a set.
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We have a crown Vic. (it's awesome) we have a dedicated pair of studded snow tires for the rear and regular all seasons in front durringthe winter. Here in mass it's a must. If the backs arent studded and have a more aggressive tread then that thing goes nowhere. Especially since I live on a rather steep hill
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If you don't drive appropriately you will always have issues. I went through two winters with balding pro comp muds and was just fine. I expect my new MTR/Ks to be no different or better.
I was driving at a crawl & couldn't stop sliding all over, nearly went through a fence, so I didn't like them to much
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BTW,,, I have the same opinion of front wheel drive cars.... The big six have been selling us front wheel drive cars, not because they're better in adverse weather, but because they are less expensive to build,, I know many an officer that is lamenting the loss of the Crown Vic, rear wheel drive cruiser..
They lamenting the loss of the vic because of all the extra room. Most of the police around here are now driving chargers which are also rear wheel drive. The ones I've talked to like the chargers but not the lack of space.
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Old 10-19-2011, 04:34 AM   #18
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cool, thanks for the info people, I really appreciate it.
I think I will try to get them siped, that's a great suggestion.
last year we had a really snowy winter here which is unusual for west cork end they are predicting an even worse one this year and Ireland is just not equipped for that kind of weather! the counsel couldn't grit the road cause the grit was kept 10miles from where the gritting truck was kept and the driver couldn't get to the grit, only in Ireland!!!
I was in a miata last year, all it did was sink to the lowest point of the road, can't wait to get stuck in with the jeep this year though.
you all take care.
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I think you got the idea here....
A/Ts are better for ice, and shallow or packed snow because of the biting edges provided by the tread blocks and siping.
M/Ts are better for deep and loose snow, and slushy conditions because of the large tread voids being able to dig in.
Wide tires tend to float more than narrow tires.

Ideally, you want a tire that has an semi-aggressive tread to it, with reasonable siping. I liked my 31x10.50 Cooper STTs in the snow.
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I have had both the BFG mud terrain and the BFG all terrain in the Maine, US winter. The all terrains certainly pack with snow A LOT easier then the mud terrain. I went to the Mud Terrains and was way more pleased with the winter driving capabilities, they seem to clean themselves out better.
What would be your take on the New 2013 Rubicon's Mud terrain tires? Do you think they'll work fairly on ice and snow?
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Old 10-30-2012, 12:43 AM   #21
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K so for what it's worth, quadratec says:

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Rubicon’s standard 32-inch BFGoodrich® off-road tires have a custom or "Different Tread" pattern that is exclusive to the Jeep brand. The meaty tires have more tread blocks with biting edges for foul weather (including ice and snow).

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Link: BFGoodrich 86927 - BF Goodrich® Mud-Terrain T/A® KM-DT Tire in LT255/75R17 with Black Side Wall - Quadratec

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