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Old 08-10-2013, 05:14 PM   #31
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I only have seen them on many of the jeeps we wheel with. Some are worn down on the smaller lug tread size disproportionally to the outer lugs. I've seen this over the years from other rigs and it's one of the concerns I've had with putting them on my Jeep. I've read about this across the boards too with others so it's not only my experience with them. I have also seen MT/R sets on various rigs that are nearly bald evenly all over showing good wear. It's a wash really to say they all wear badly but it's also incorrect to say that people just don't have these real experiences with them. I like to offer that both exist.
I'm not buying that the disproportionate tread wear is inherent to any tire especially the MT/Rk.

I currently own 4 sets ranging in size from metric 33's up to and including 40's and these are the latest in a long series of them I've used. I'm also around many sets on a lot of the rigs I help folks with and have yet to see the wear pattern you describe.

The set of 33's was replaced by GY because they were out of round.

Most bad wear I've seen on any tire of any brand is due to improper rotation, rim selection, balance, and air pressure in the tire.

If you see a tire wearing more on the inside than the outside part of the tread, I'd certainly look closer at the maintenance habits of the owner before I started blaming it on tire brand or model.

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You can safely take those 37" MT/Rs down to below 10 psi without beadlock wheels, so long as they're not an extra-wide wheel like a 15x10. I ran my 35" MT/R for years at 7.5-8psi with non-beadlocked 15x8 wheels with them never unseating on even very tough offcamber treails. Even with a 15x10 I wouldn't hesitate to take them to 9-10 psi on on a non-beadlock wheel.

With beadlocks, you can take them down to whatever you want, certainly even 3-4 psi without worry. I run my 35" MT/Rs at 5-6 psi all the time on my beadlocks.
What exactly are beadlocks? I've heard the word thrown around a lot on this forum but never really understood it

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Bead lock wheels have a separate outer ring held on by a number of bolts that serve to clamp (lock) the tire's bead to the wheel so it can't unseat from being aired down to an extremely low air pressure.

Here's a beadlock wheel like mine which is made by Walker Evans. That outer ring is what locks the tire bead to the wheel.

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Bead lock wheels have a separate outer ring held on by a number of bolts that serve to clamp (lock) the tire's bead to the wheel so it can't unseat from being aired down to an extremely low air pressure.

Here's a beadlock wheel like mine which is made by Walker Evans. That outer ring is what locks the tire bead to the wheel.
Oooh okay, so I'm planning on picking up some Pro comp alloy series wheels and they don't have beadlocks. How low can I air down to safely on 33x12.5R15?
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You can safely air those 33x12.50 tires down to 10 psi, just make sure to get 15x8 wheels. It takes more air pressure to keep tire beads seated against wheel edges that are 10" apart than when they are 8" apart.
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You can safely air those 33x12.50 tires down to 10 psi, just make sure to get 15x8 wheels. It takes more air pressure to keep tire beads seated against wheel edges that are 10" apart than when they are 8" apart.
I love this forum, I'll be sure to do that haha
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The guy who said he could give me a deal on the set of tires should be getting back to me tonight or tomorrow. As I said up there ^ I'm planning on rolling on some Pro Comp Alloy Series 7069's. (I'd upload a picture, but I only know how to do that on my phone lol) But anyway, depending on what tire he can get me I'll be going with the available one, if both I'm not 100% but I am leaning towards the MTR's so we'll see. I'll definitely be uploading some pictures after is all said and done though
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I was impressed when I saw Hankooks took top place in the tire shootout.Ive heard nothing but good about them,but this isnt a thread about them so Ill shut up.I can say a buddy I wheel with very often has BFG's & they do better in the mud then my Dick Cepek mud country tires.I think if I wasent sold on the Hankooks Id do MTR's.
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Correction,

Kjeeper has hankooks and is happy with them. They did do very well in recent awards. I keep waiting to see BFG update their ATs but its probably not going to happen.
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I'm no fan of Cooper tires, most of them are made in China.
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I'm no fan of Cooper tires, most of them are made in China.
Thank you for letting me know that. I had no idea and will not buy Cooper tires again. Was wondering why the STT was a bit less than other similar tires..
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Old 08-11-2013, 04:16 PM   #42
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He said he'd contact me tomorrow with prices!
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I've had both on my jeeps and prefer the BFG KM2 over the MTR. Just got back from the Rubicon with awesome results on the BFGs.

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I'd love to get those, wayy out of my price range though
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So did you decide on a tire? I got lost in all the ramblings. Honestly both tires are good, I would probably lean towards the KM2 for a DD but I currently run both duratracs and MTRs (at the same time), which interestingly enough gives a pretty nice comparison. One of my best wheeling buddies runs the KM2s and we have been wheeling together for years so we have a pretty good grasp of what these tires are capable of. MTRs really come out and shine on the rocks. They are TOUGH. KM2s are an all around well performing tire and will do better on road than the MTRs in snow/rain etc. I found the sweet spot by siping my MTRs. Not overboard but a little goes a long ways. Now my duratracs are literally about to fall into pieces with about 2 years of use and 1 is already dead out of the 4...
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So did you decide on a tire? I got lost in all the ramblings. Honestly both tires are good, I would probably lean towards the KM2 for a DD but I currently run both duratracs and MTRs (at the same time), which interestingly enough gives a pretty nice comparison. One of my best wheeling buddies runs the KM2s and we have been wheeling together for years so we have a pretty good grasp of what these tires are capable of. MTRs really come out and shine on the rocks. They are TOUGH. KM2s are an all around well performing tire and will do better on road than the MTRs in snow/rain etc. I found the sweet spot by siping my MTRs. Not overboard but a little goes a long ways. Now my duratracs are literally about to fall into pieces with about 2 years of use and 1 is already dead out of the 4...
Not necessarily, I'm honestly torn between the two, I've heard good and bad from both. Today I looked all over the internet for the cheapest MTR's I could find. It took me a while and I finally found a set of 5 for about $1,100. Tomorrow I'll look into the KM2's and see what I can find. And because, to me at least, the tallys for both tires are just about even the price will be the ultimatum. I'll update y'all what I find tomorrow
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Goodluck. I picked up 2 33" MTRs for 150 bucks 3/4 tread last summer. That was a steal.
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MTR's it is!!! Tire rack had'em for 210 a tire, came out to about $1,200 for 5. Hell of a deal, I think...
After I hopped on over to quadratec and picked up some Alloy Procomp 7069 for $102 dollars a pop.
They should both be coming in sometime next week, and even though this thread is rather dead I'm still going to post some pictures for y'all hahah
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MTR's it is!!! Tire rack had'em for 210 a tire, came out to about $1,200 for 5. Hell of a deal, I think...
After I hopped on over to quadratec and picked up some Alloy Procomp 7069 for $102 dollars a pop.
They should both be coming in sometime next week, and even though this thread is rather dead I'm still going to post some pictures for y'all hahah
I like those rims.After I get rid of my crap steelies thats what Im going with.
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sounds like a good deal.
those look just like the ultra's I got from tirerack.
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sounds like a good deal. those look just like the ultra's I got from tirerack.
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sounds like a good deal.
those look just like the ultra's I got from tirerack.
Very nice.Your wheel liners/inner fenders look great.Me likey!
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thanks guys.
JD you'll like those rims - won't have to worry about polishing!
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They are a sexy tire. I wish I had 3 more!
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thanks guys. JD you'll like those rims - won't have to worry about polishing!
You're right!!! That never even crossed my mind
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I don't know if this is uncommon but I ordered these tires YESTERDAY...
They were on my front porch by 11 this morning...

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As I am very very VERY happy with the speed of the shipment, there's one tire missing, so I'll be calling tire rack today to work it out. But still these tires weren't supposed to be here till the 18th, I'm amazed hahah
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It may still be coming. It's not uncommon for them to drop ship them and one place had 4 so they got 1 from some where else etc. They look great though. I never got to see mine at full tread haha.
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It may still be coming. It's not uncommon for them to drop ship them and one place had 4 so they got 1 from some where else etc. They look great though. I never got to see mine at full tread haha.
Good to hear, but yeah I think I'm going to be very happy with them. Bridgeport ASAP!!!

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