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Old 09-20-2012, 08:16 AM   #91
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To serve and Protect..... (warrants and special interests). A state that takes any initiative to protect you from yourself is no good at all. Good luck with your situation. Whatever the outcome, it sounds like this guy has you singled out for some reason. I'd consider sending a FOIA request for a history of complaints against him, cell phone records during the times of your traffic stops, video footage from his car during your stops, etc. and file yourself a solid complaint against him. That's rediculous.

Edit: This isn't an LE-hating post... it's acknowledgement that their are bad apples in every group that need to be reigned in from time to time.

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Old 09-20-2012, 12:26 PM   #92
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Man this thread pisses me off. I'm not a cop hater in any way, but stuff like this makes it tough to maintain that mindset.

Having said that, cops don't have to enforce stupid laws. I know for a fact that they have that discretion. I get the fishing for bad guys thing, but if you are just fishing, why write a BS ticket to someone who obviously isn't a bad guy. That cop pulled over the OP on 2 other ocassions, so he knew damn well the OP isn't a bad guy. That leaves only 2 reasons. Either the cop is just another asshole JBT, or it's revenue generation. Since we all know that revenue generation doesn't exist, it must be the asshole JBT thing.

As for the judge, if he really and truely thinks it's a BS law, he could have handled it differently. What he should have done was found you guilty of the infraction and imposed zero penalty. In that scenerio, everybody wins. And just maybe it would send a subtle message to the JBT that it's time to harass someone else, or at least find a legitimate reason to cite the OP.

As I posted in the OP's first thread. Here is a prime example of asshole politicians passing asshole laws that asshole cops are more than happy to enforce.

Welcome to America the land of the free, where everything is ilegal


ETA......OP, I'd at least write a letter to you senators and representatives to let them they've fucked up another law. Remind them that elections are coming and Americans are getting tired.

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Old 09-20-2012, 12:33 PM   #93
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Judge questioned the trooper with the sane thing but then re read it. It states must open n close securley unless no top or sides. But still had to hav doors
They are open securley, by not being there...
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Old 09-20-2012, 12:47 PM   #94
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X2 Some idiot was just stopped near the airport yesterday for following to close. Upon K-9 inspection the driver had 65# of pot stashed in the bumpers and door panels.
See, If everyone drove jeeps, Problem Solved!!! Nowhere to Stash
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Old 09-20-2012, 12:59 PM   #95
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I can just see it now, some d*** outlawing jeeps because of this.. even though they prove to be safer then some other vehicles.
You're absolutely right. a car accident happened one morning right outside my house, a 2 door JK and an older model Infiniti sedan (maybe like 2002) the infiniti was TOTALED, SHATTERED, DONE. the jeep? had a dent in the front bumper. I mean, i don't think it gets better than that
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Old 09-20-2012, 01:04 PM   #96
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I recently got my TJ. Two days ago a city cop pulled me over, I had the doors off for the first time and was enjoying it. The officer walked around the Jeep admiring it and said " Just be sure that all paper and anything loose is secure, I'd hate to give you a ticket, drive safe and have a nice day" and left.

Cops are human too, they have good days, bad days..good days that turned to crap, you get the idea. I have friends who are cops, some of the stories you hear and they are nonchalant about them are messed up.

I guess what I'm saying is, if the officer asks you to put your doors on, put them on until you can get a clarification from DMV or a Judge. The officer that just pulled you over may have just left a Domestic Disturbance with a crazed jealous wife with a tube of super glue and a dull butter knife (story a friend told me).
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Old 09-20-2012, 02:05 PM   #97
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I don't see how he officer is a jerk, "pig", or whatever else people have posted here....he gave you 2 warning!!! Most would only give you 1!!! Again I don agree with the citation but it wasn't like you were not warned. As for all the police haters even I you don't like them they are willing to put THEIR life on the line to protect you and your family!!!! This forum is getting so far off topic as of late that its not a place to come anymore to get away from the worlds non sense...sad. Just my opinion which isn't worth much anyway!
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I don't see how he officer is a jerk, "pig", or whatever else people have posted here....he gave you 2 warning!!! Most would only give you 1!!! Again I don agree with the citation but it wasn't like you were not warned. As for all the police haters even I you don't like them they are willing to put THEIR life on the line to protect you and your family!!!! This forum is getting so far off topic as of late that its not a place to come anymore to get away from the worlds non sense...sad. Just my opinion which isn't worth much anyway!
In this scenerio, the cop is just one bent spoke in the whole screwed up wheel. It's about common sense and our government left the plantation a long time ago. Try this, Google stupid or strange laws. You'll get a metric shit ton of stupid ass laws that are ignored every single day. Police have the ability(and duty in my opinion) to use discretion when dealing with the public in order to keep their trust.

Here's one for example. "In Pueblo, Colorado, it is illegal to let a dandelion grow within city limits."

Now, if you lived in Pueblo and you got a ticket for allowing a dandy lion to grow in your lawn, how would you feel? Would you bitch about how unfair and stupid it is, or would you happily pay the fine? You did afterall break the law.

Maybe we should start enforcing this one. "Putting salt on a railroad track can be punishable by death in the state of Alabama."


As for your second comment, I don't think it's off topic. He was in his jeep after all. Besides, you can only have so many threads about Rough Country lifts or how to properly wire fog lights. Some of us like to discuss other topics now and then. For the most part, this place is as dry as burnt toast. I for one, welcome threads like this.
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Old 09-20-2012, 03:35 PM   #99
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I only wish police officers were as respectful as they used to. Where I'm from, the only things cops re good for is for handing out parking tickets and giving teenagers summonses for being on the beach after dark. Yet they wouldn't dare go in the bad parts of town where there are people that will shoot back at them or vandalize their squad car. As far I as I see, they care more about their quota, and not so much protecting the people
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Agree.
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Old 09-20-2012, 09:59 PM   #102
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Show up to court in the doorless jeep




I'll consider myself lucky since in my neck of the woods in Texas, they have other bigger priorities to worry about than stopping doorless jeepers. Heck I even took my doors off last week and a state trooper passed me in his crown vic and waved! I was baffled because I thought he was going to turn around and pull me over. I have never been stopped for having my doors off knock on wood
Gotta love Texas!!
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Gotta love Texas!!
Everyone loves Texas
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Except Californians.. Lol
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Except Californians.. Lol
Only bc they don't live in Texas I lived in Cali for a little bit...Texas trumps Cali all day, IMO
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Old 09-20-2012, 10:44 PM   #106
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Only bc they don't live in Texas I lived in Cali for a little bit...Texas trumps Cali all day, IMO
Been to both, Cali won me on beaches (only because I didn't go see Texas beaches) other than that, Texas wins between the 2, overall it's Alaska then Colorado THEN texas
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Old 09-20-2012, 10:46 PM   #107
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Been to both, Cali won me on beaches (only because I didn't go see Texas beaches) other than that, Texas wins between the 2, overall it's Alaska then Colorado THEN texas
My opinion is skewed because I've never been to Alaska
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Hope it turns out well, glad I live in Nevada.
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Only bc they don't live in Texas I lived in Cali for a little bit...Texas trumps Cali all day, IMO
California sucks at this point in time, I live there for years and that state has really gone to hell.
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Only bc they don't live in Texas I lived in Cali for a little bit...Texas trumps Cali all day, IMO
Vise versa for me Cali destroys texas IMO
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My vote for best state goes to Louisiana we just have one..tiny problem.
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My vote for best state goes to Louisiana we just have one..tiny problem.
Lmao!! Texas also that small, minor problem lol
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Lmao!! Texas also that small, minor problem lol
Haha oh I'm sure. It's not TOO bad on the cities. But you try to go near the woods and nothing can save you, they get so big and just laugh at our puny bug spray.. Some are almost the size of small horse flies.
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Haha oh I'm sure. It's not TOO bad on the cities. But you try to go near the woods and nothing can save you, they get so big and just laugh at our puny bug spray.. Some are almost the size of small horse flies.
Oh no...no nope no no no no....I don't do bugs of unusual sizes..nope nope nope lol
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Oh no...no nope no no no no....I don't do bugs of unusual sizes..nope nope nope lol
I tried to go fishing the other day, then they swarmed. Almost stayed, but they finally ran me off. Oh well, decided to go wheeling instead, only normal sized mosquitoes on the other side of the property
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Texas over Cali... Ca. has some very skewed ideas regarding gun laws... Louisiana was nice too... But Alaska, really, too damn cold for my butt, It's freakin' gorgeous though !
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My vote for best state goes to Louisiana we just have one..tiny problem.


Tell me about it, in Louisiana, they call mosquitos the State Bird!

California was once a great state. Now its just a shadow of its former self.
edit: case in point, sigh...
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(f) Doors. A vehicle specified under this subchapter shall be equipped with doors of a type used as original equipment. The doors shall open and close securely unless the vehicle has been manufactured or modified to the extent that there is no roof or side. Tailgates, except on vehicles where the tailgate gives access to the passenger compartment, may be replaced with wood planking, nets or other material that will prevent loss of load. Tailgates may be removed when optional equipment, for example a truck camper, is added.


The first sentence states you must have doors and they must be OEM type. The second sentence doesn't apply to Wranglers since they are manufactured WITHOUT roofs. Hardtops and softops are not ROOFS. You still have to have doors but they don't have to open or stay shut. How f'ed up is that?

I kept reading this trying to make the second sentence negate the first on a Wrangler but my mind has wasted away from years of working in parts and I just can't do it.
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Wow! Fender flares can exceed three inches? Doesn't say they are required though. I'm never moving to PA.
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Wow! Fender flares can exceed three inches? Doesn't say they are required though. I'm never moving to PA.
I got pulled over for tires exceeding the flare by 1/4" here in PA. $220ish fine, so I fought it. Got it dropped, thank god. Glad I'm getting my Arizona plates soon!

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