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Old 08-03-2009, 12:25 PM   #1
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Thumbs up Big Night Tonight!!!

Banks Monster exhaust and Magnaflow direct fit cat are waiting at my house, they were dropped off today by UPS and are going to be installed when i get home.

anything to check or look out for in this process. any tips or input?

im not looking forward to taking off the skid plate...thats a pain

ill take some b4 and after photos and vids and post them


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Why are you doing this mod?

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Old 08-03-2009, 01:16 PM   #3
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internals of OEM cat are falling apart, and outer casing of OEM muffler is starting to unwrap! Thats why im replacing the Cat and installing a stainless cat back system.

why...
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Just wondering. Sounds like a fun project, and will see a big difference.
Good luck

post pics please..
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Old 08-03-2009, 01:50 PM   #5
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yeah hopefully she'll flow a little better! i'm looking forward to the install but im going to be running solo, might need the gf to hold some stuff!

we'll make do
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Old 08-03-2009, 08:24 PM   #6
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Big night (pics\vid)

here are some pics of the final product, after i will post a link to the vid

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and now the vid, comment if you would like, and check out my buddies Sharted video, he's a creative kid!

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let me know what you think...wicked smooth install, cut off most of the old system, its easier to get out, i tried to heat up and get the old o2 sensors out but they got all messed up.

FYI - $148 for upstream and downstream O2's (bosch)

the picture is of the old system cut out, and another picture of my Helix power tower Throttle body, a recent install aswell
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Sounds like a ricer to me.....my 2 cents. I'll take a flowmaster 40 series any day. Nice install though.
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Sounds like a ricer to me.....my 2 cents. I'll take a flowmaster 40 series any day. Nice install though.


sound quality deff. does not do it justice, its a real deep throaty rumbly tone , not as Ricer as it sounds through my digital camera.

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as long as you like it, that's all that matters!

great job! =]
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Everything looked great till the video, i thought you were replacing broken engine parts with new ones. My Jeep does not sound like that for sure, and I will be embarrassed to drive it with that sound. But that is my preference.

Like someone said, if you are happy, that's all it matters. Your $, your car.

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hmmmm now im starting to think it sounds like a ricer... .....I'll give it some time to break in, then if it still sounds farty then maybe ill invest in a super 44 or something. what the crap! runs a lot better though

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ive seen many a video witht he listen to my exhaust theme. and i can tell you from my experiance not a single one ever sounds like it does in reality so i dont even bother listening. not only do cellphone/digital cameras/ microphone on computer SUCK none of us are sound editors with the proper software to make it sound liget. i bet the banks really does sound great. and imho the flowmaster 40 on a jeep would sound alot worse. i dont even like 40 series on big blocks sounds like a burnt valve all the time.
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what have you done for your intake?

the true greatness of an open flowing exhaust inst felt untill youve combined an intake to it. in order for it to breath better you have to make it inhale and exhale evenly
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Old 08-04-2009, 08:55 AM   #16
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It sounds fine you picked a nice system ,it will get a little deeper over time too. Nice job on the install.
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Thanks Lee and Jerry, i've been getting beat up over here! although it does sound distorted and farty through my video, lee you brought up some key points.

and Lee i've read up a lot on the "intake" replacement and from all the talk and insight, i dont think that it would make a ton of sense to replace the stock system that i have. With the stock system it's pretty much a straight dump of air along with a big chamber, i get less dirt/debris into the filter and it runs really good. They say that the 4.0L tj's intake was not designed to be restrictive, much like many other vehicles.

If anything i think ill be looking at a Snorkel Kit to get that Exhaust hanging high, but at this point im not looking to dive down deep looking for burried treasure
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Thanks Lee and Jerry, i've been getting beat up over here! although it does sound distorted and farty through my video, lee you brought up some key points.
Is your Jeep a 4cyl? Sorry, if it was noted here somewhere..

If it is; they always have a "ricer" vibe to them.. If not; don't worry, the tone will get deeper as time goes on. I have the banks monster and everyone I trail ride loves how deep it is.. It sounded exceptional from the get-go, but it did break in a tad.

Yours also sounded like you were "idling" a little high..
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the tj box is good but its still not great. i know this is for a taco but i did it on my silverado and its worked good. i do have a cleanable filter tho. when i go on dirt roads or water with my truck i close it up but most of it is streat stuff and ive ran threw torrental rain and checked it and had no problem.

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its a 6 (4.0L) yeah it'll break in a little bit. Im excited i actully really like it. What size is your motor?
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the tj box is good but its still not great. i know this is for a taco but i did it on my silverado and its worked good. i do have a cleanable filter tho. when i go on dirt roads or water with my truck i close it up but most of it is streat stuff and ive ran threw torrental rain and checked it and had no problem.

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i like it. when i get back to the stats and get my 03-06 rubicon im puting a snorkel on and im going to see if i can adapt it to that system as the snorkel would in my mind limit some airflow at higher speeds
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I installed banks myself, I suggest a saws all. It's not all that bad to install.
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I installed banks myself, I suggest a saws all. It's not all that bad to install.
already tackled it, look up at the pics/vid. and yes my saws all came in handy

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I think it sounds fine. Since you've been driving it, have you noticed a performance increase?
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I think it sounds fine. Since you've been driving it, have you noticed a performance increase?
deff! it seems i dont need my foot to the floor anymore to maintain speed up hills and just to pick up speed, deffinatly had more lowend pull. probably a mixture of the throttle body spacer as well
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i think most wrangler, OEM intakes are "full flow" meaning there is no restriction, so i don't think it would improve much on the performance end but, man they sure look bad ass!!! nice install btw. looks and i'm sure it sounds great, i never trust "amatuer" video, the sound won't be clear.
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i think most wrangler, OEM intakes are "full flow" meaning there is no restriction, so i don't think it would improve much on the performance end but, man they sure look bad ass!!! nice install btw. looks and i'm sure it sounds great, i never trust "amatuer" video, the sound won't be clear.
The 168 freeway heading out of Fresno going into the mountains toward Shaver lake and all the good local wheeling spots is a long and steep stretch of road. Before I did the intake and Flowmaster upgrades, I was doing 50-55 up this stretch of road. After the upgrades, it was 60-65. People can try to convince me all day long that these upgrades don't really make a difference and that the dyno results that different mags report aren't really true, but I'm here to tell you all that their wrong. Around town my Jeep has more pep. But the real proof was the first time I headed up the 168.
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The 168 freeway heading out of Fresno going into the mountains toward Shaver lake and all the good local wheeling spots is a long and steep stretch of road. Before I did the intake and Flowmaster upgrades, I was doing 50-55 up this stretch of road. After the upgrades, it was 60-65. People can try to convince me all day long that these upgrades don't really make a difference and that the dyno results that different mags report aren't really true, but I'm here to tell you all that their wrong. Around town my Jeep has more pep. But the real proof was the first time I headed up the 168.
i also have noticed a significant diff. in the effort required to get up hills, up to speed etc. I have not replaced my stock intake though.

Do you credit your exhaust or the intake more? and have you ran with out the intake to notice a difference?
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i also have noticed a significant diff. in the effort required to get up hills, up to speed etc. I have not replaced my stock intake though.

Do you credit your exhaust or the intake more? and have you ran with out the intake to notice a difference?
I did the Airaid intake and the Flowmaster the same day. I drove it home from the muffler shop and installed the intake. The next day I drove it to work. Like yourself, I noticed a big differance in getting up to speed. And I also noticed a differance when I went to pass.

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