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Old 04-20-2007, 09:13 AM   #1
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Anyone have any positive/negative experiences (or heard of any) with the Black Diamond 3" lift? They say it will clear 33's no problem, is that true? Also, any opinions on the Cepek Mud Countrys?

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it'll clear 33's...you may get some rubbing if you disconnect though...if you stay connected and install the longer bumpstops you should be fine.

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Old 04-20-2007, 09:18 AM   #3
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How bout the Mud Countrys? They look great, but we know looks can be deceiving. My MTR's only lasted about 20,000 miles. My BFG's lasted longer but their not knobby enough for me.
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not sure...off topic kinda but besides mileage how did you like the MTR's? they were knobbier than bfg's?
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Old 04-20-2007, 09:23 AM   #5
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Also, the guy at my local 4x4 shop swears that there's absolutely no way anything less than a 4" lift will clear 33's, even with extra backspacing. but he also says he prefers to order the parts for my jeep himself to make sure all the parts come in otherwise he can't "guarantee" a complete kit. Is this guy full of it or what (about the lift... I know he's full of it on the parts).
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Old 04-20-2007, 09:25 AM   #6
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I loved the look of the MTR's... from the first day they came out. I suppose alot of people did, considering the fact that all Rubicon roll out of the factory with MTR's stock. They handled well both on and off the pavement. They just didn't last very long.
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Also, the guy at my local 4x4 shop swears that there's absolutely no way anything less than a 4" lift will clear 33's, even with extra backspacing. but he also says he prefers to order the parts for my jeep himself to make sure all the parts come in otherwise he can't "guarantee" a complete kit. Is this guy full of it or what (about the lift... I know he's full of it on the parts).
he just wants you to buy the 4" from him to make extra money...he is full of bologna.

did he tell you "extra backspacing"? if so hes an absolute idiot. you need less backspacing with bigger tires.

there are plenty of people (including people on this board) that run 33's with less than 4" of lift. lots of people run BB's with a 1" BL with 33's.
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Also, the guy at my local 4x4 shop swears that there's absolutely no way anything less than a 4" lift will clear 33's, even with extra backspacing......
1) Don't believe him.... I have a RE 3.5 SF and run 33's with plenty of extra room. (A guy I know fell into this trap. He ended up spending about 2k more than he had to based on a shops advice.)

2) Save your money and do the lift yourself. Gather information and do it right.

3) I you do end up with tire clearence problems, throw a 1" body and motor mount lift on it.
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Old 04-20-2007, 09:41 AM   #9
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I ran the BD 3" lift for a couple months.... the shocks it came with were a little stiff but they were pretty old.... my 32's didt rub at all and I dont think the 33's would either, you could always add a 1"bl

I just sold that old lift for under $100 to someone els on the forum maybe they could tell you how it is now
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Old 04-20-2007, 09:56 AM   #10
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I have some gearhead students that said they would help install the stuff, but they're used to working on sort of the reverse of what I want (lowriders). I suppose given the right instructions it's apples and oranges and they should be able to figure it out. I know I've seen a couple of sites that give good step by step instructions (with pictures) but I don't remember where they are... any suggestions?
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Google "Jeep lift install" you'll get more than you can read in a lifetime. Plus, any kit will come with basic instructions.

4x4xplor.com - Jeep TJ Wrangler, JK, CJ and XJ Cherokee Write-Ups and Jeep Web Site of Stu Olson - N7QJP are two good all around instructional sites for jeepers.
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Big jeep maybe for the extra back spacing he is thinking of the pic bellow? lol Anyhow 3" will clear 33s..
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Old 04-21-2007, 09:44 AM   #13
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Yeah I am running a 2 in BB and a 1 in BL and clearing 33's fine. You shouldn't have any problems with that setup. You go 4+ and you are looking at spending lots more money!!

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