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Old 11-06-2013, 01:25 PM   #1
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Body Lift and High Clearance Skid

99 TJ Sport 5 speed.

I am considering doing the 1" Performance Accessories body lift and high clearance skid to start building my jeep instead of doing a BB and wasting money. Will 31's be good with the 1" BL?

What kind of skid plate do yall reccomend?I like the 33 engineering skid because of the crossmember that holds the TC up and the skid that mounts on it. and what MML? I'm considering a MORE offroad MML.

Do I HAVE to have an SYE with the high clearance skid and MML on stock suspension?

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Do I HAVE to have an SYE with the high clearance skid and MML on stock suspension?
considering you have a SWB, the answer is likely yes.
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Old 11-06-2013, 08:41 PM   #4
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Swb? Stock wheel base? lol just a guess
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Short wheel base

If you move your tc more than 2" from its original location, when compared to the differentials, you could get vibes. Once you hit 3", its almost guaranteed

You would also need adj rear control arms to make the necessary adjustments
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Old 11-06-2013, 09:17 PM   #6
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so 1" BL
Skid (whichever one I decide)
SYE and Double cardan DS
Adjustable upper control arms
1" MML

What else?
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Old 11-06-2013, 09:47 PM   #7
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Imo, lower arms as well

Tummy tucks rapidly add up if you do it right
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Why do you say lower control arms?
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How else will you set your wheel base?
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I just thought you would use the top adj CA's to push the pinion up therefore making the wheelbase a tad longer.
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That will def cause rubbing when stuffed, and could lead to clearance issues between your trackbar/diff cover and gts
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Well keep in mind I'm a senior in highschool trying to upgrade my jeep in ways that I won't waste money, I like the high clearance skids because of how much better they make the jeep look and the benefits they have. I don't do hardcore wheeling and would just like to do what I need until I can save up some more money.

UCA's and a trackbar bracket will cause clearance issues??
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1" body lift

1" MML

Undercover Fab 2" deep skid and LoPro trans mount

You'll be good to go. Those are some awfully smart plans for a high school kid.
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Well keep in mind I'm a senior in highschool trying to upgrade my jeep in ways that I won't waste money, I like the high clearance skids because of how much better they make the jeep look and the benefits they have. I don't do hardcore wheeling and would just like to do what I need until I can save up some more money.

UCA's and a trackbar bracket will cause clearance issues??
If you increase the length of the UCA's you can cause clearance issues with the Track bar or even cause your shocks to hit the lower spring buckets.

I would suggest you go with the 1" Body Lift and the 1 inch Motor Mount Lift to get the high clearance skid plate in there. They add a SYE and CV Drive Shaft to make sure you don't have any drive line vibrations. You could do the tummy tuck and see if you have vibs before adding the SYE and CV drive shaft, but as stated above, you'll most likely need one when moving the transfer case up that far.

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while you are setting the pinion you may as well add a 2 inch spacer lift so you don't have to do it twice. Then you can step up to 32's and when funds allow you swap the puck lift for a 2 inch spring lift. In theory your pinion will not change.

3" with a tummy tuck and 32's would be a heck of a wheeler.
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Well... with you being a senior in highschool... the route I took at that point was a 4" lift and 33s, no regear or anything... and I just recently trimmed my flares and removed splash guards, fixing to do bedliner... then my next step will be the body lift, mml, high clearance skids, sye, dl, and rear axle... then after that I'm gonna do comp cuts and stretch the wb, stuff 36s at the same 4" lift, nothing wasted, very capable at each stage(just need a new dl at the last stage, do my gears then also)
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1" body lift

1" MML

Undercover Fab 2" deep skid and LoPro trans mount

You'll be good to go. Those are some awfully smart plans for a high school kid.
^^^This..! If it is possible (and it is) to do a 3" suspension lift and take care of vibes with a mml, then you can also do as Imped suggested with the stock ds and be without vibes.
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1" body lift

1" MML

Undercover Fab 2" deep skid and LoPro trans mount

You'll be good to go. Those are some awfully smart plans for a high school kid.
Is that their ultra clearance? or original extra clearance skid?
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I'm not sure either K.wag, the original extra clearance is only for 03-06 from what I saw. Only one for a 99 that I see is the ultra clearance.
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The 2" deep skids are the original extra clearance ones for a late jeep 03-06
but for the early jeeps 97-2002 the no body lift required one is actually 2" deep

The 1" deep skids are the ultra high clearance ones
http://www.undercoverfab.com/transfe...te-system.html
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So the UCF 2" deep skid plate, lowpro mount, with the BL and MML. Will it need sye with that?
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with stock lift height, probably not. but every jeep is different, and it will put more wear on your u-joints causing them to fail sooner
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Old 11-28-2013, 09:56 AM   #24
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Well considering if I did do sye and wasn't worrying about saving driving angles when i do the skid plate, should I still go with the ucf? or is there a better option?

Upper and lower control arms.
What sye kit?
How do I know how long of a driveshaft I need?
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for how much it all cost, it made more sense to me to get some high clearance fenders and run 33's. My opinion, when I do the tummy tuck, i'm doing the lift at the same time. Hell you're buying half of the most important components for a lift, might as well buy it all as a package you'll save some money in the long run. For instance, currie and metalcloak sell their lifts with all the arms included. Currie's lift is 2200, their arms alone are 1000. makes sense to me just to buy it all together when you get the money. High clearance fenders with stock suspension, I don't have to worry about changing angles, lower center of gravity, and a sick looking yet capable rig. Rides like stock cause it is! I'm with you on the tummy tuck but it's just way complicated for a budget jeep. Just my .02
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for how much it all cost, it made more sense to me to get some high clearance fenders and run 33's. My opinion, when I do the tummy tuck, i'm doing the lift at the same time. Hell you're buying half of the most important components for a lift, might as well buy it all as a package you'll save some money in the long run. For instance, currie and metalcloak sell their lifts with all the arms included. Currie's lift is 2200, their arms alone are 1000. makes sense to me just to buy it all together when you get the money. High clearance fenders with stock suspension, I don't have to worry about changing angles, lower center of gravity, and a sick looking yet capable rig. Rides like stock cause it is! I'm with you on the tummy tuck but it's just way complicated for a budget jeep. Just my .02
I'm on the same page as you, I think it's ridiculous to buy something like a spacer lift when you're just gonna replace it, I wanna do something that will get rid of weak points, not create more.
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sorry, I was under the impression you wanted to run bigger tires but that doesn't look like the case. Still, if you ever plan on getting a lift kit, a lot of this stuff will be purchased for that lift alone minus the actual high clearance skid. But if you want the high clearance stuff here's what everyone talks about in terms of good companies:

Control arms: MetalCloak, Currie/Savvy, Roakman
My opinion based on research only is either metalcloak or Currie/savvy. I think Currie made the JonnyJoint double adjustable arms which have proven to be very good. I could be wrong, savvy and currie confuse me, but they make solid stuff. MetalCloak came out with new control arms which have amazing reviews but they're still new on the market. Both of these companies are very pricey but everyone says they're the best.

Skids: UCF, 33 Engineering, Teraflex, Roakman, Savvy
Skids are pretty standard, I couldn't imagine any being really bad. Savvy's skid is all aluminum and includes an engine skid I believe. I personally own UCF's engine skid. It's well made stuff, looks solid. The install was pretty straight forward and the price was lower than average. I will be going with UCF for my belly up skid.

SYE: I know not to buy rugged ridge's SYE kit. I've heard nothing but bad things. Couldn't tell you what kit to buy though.

Driveshaft: Tom Woods drive shafts are apparently the greatest ever. That's what they say....ask him, I think he'll get you set up right. It's going to be a custom shaft.

Anyone see anything wrong with this info please correct me, I haven't had the luck of getting very involved with this yet. Do research to verify my comments. Hopefully some people can add some personal experience to the list. Good luck man, the belly up set up will cost you 1500 to 2000, also about as much as a good lift kit haha. Of course those are top notch companies.
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Currie is the manufacturer of Johnny Joints, the standard steel control arms, track bars, etc....anything with the Currie name. Savvy is simply a separate manufacturer and Currie distributor. They build and sell their own aluminum "double adjustable" control arms with JJ's. They sell their suspension kits with Currie components and their control arms.

Currie has been around since before your fathers. Savvy has been around since ~2008. John Currie, Gerald (owner of Savvy) and Blaine (designer of Savvy products) are all close friends.
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ok

BL
MML
Skid
Rear upper and lower CA's
Sye with ds

trackbar bracket or adjustable trackbar?
what else? What brand sye kit? What is the best CA for the money and what is the benefit of double adjustable aluminum ca's?

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