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Old 01-18-2013, 08:48 PM   #1
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Bottle jack for TJ with 35's

The TJ I bought did not have the stock jack. Have been looking at old threads for an option and came across an option for a land rover jack. I was lucky enough to find a junker but at the axle I don't get enough to clear the tire from the ground. Is it ok to lift under the control arm?

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Old 01-18-2013, 08:50 PM   #2
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Can you use a high-lift lack?

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Old 01-18-2013, 08:55 PM   #3
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I don't have 35's but i've jacked from under the control arm bracket before without issue. Why not look for a stock TJ jack? Jerry posted a pic before of his stock jack lifting his 35's a good inch or two off the ground.
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Old 01-18-2013, 08:56 PM   #4
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you can buy bottle jacks at any parts store, Sears Kmart Wal-Mart or pawn shop. buy one that's taller, at worst to find one thats the right hight, you get a heavier duty Jack. not necessarily a bad thing.
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you can buy bottle jacks at any parts store, Sears Kmart Wal-Mart or pawn shop. buy one that's taller, at worst to find one thats the right hight, you get a heavier duty Jack. not necessarily a bad thing.
When I first lifted my Jeep I tried the bottle jack just to see if it was tall enough. I got it all the way extended and it was still a good inch from contacting the control arm. I guess it would work if I deflated the tires all the way, but while aired up is a no go.
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Old 01-18-2013, 09:14 PM   #6
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When I first lifted my Jeep I tried the bottle jack just to see if it was tall enough. I got it all the way extended and it was still a good inch from contacting the control arm. I guess it would work if I deflated the tires all the way, but while aired up is a no go.
Why would you do all that. Are you changing a tire or need it lifted for a longer period of time?
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Old 01-18-2013, 09:38 PM   #7
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Why would you do all that. Are you changing a tire or need it lifted for a longer period of time?
Do all what? When I said I first lifted my Jeep I was referring to just after I put the lift kit on. I tested the stock bottle jack to see if it was going to work in the event of a flat tire since this is my dd. Once I seen it would not work to change a tire, it prompted me to get a hi-lift.
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I don't have 35's but i've jacked from under the control arm bracket before without issue. Why not look for a stock TJ jack? Jerry posted a pic before of his stock jack lifting his 35's a good inch or two off the ground.
Use a hi-lift or the old bupper jacks they used in the 50's
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Use a hi-lift or the old bupper jacks they used in the 50's
if you're trying to change a tire or anything on the side of the road, the Hi-Lift isn't the tool you want to use.

to change a tire with a Hi-Lift, you need to defeat the suspension first. why would you want to put yourself through that much freaking work, not to mention danger, when you slide a bottle jack under the control arm bracket and have the job done in 1/3rd the time?
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if you're trying to change a tire or anything on the side of the road, the Hi-Lift isn't the tool you want to use.

to change a tire with a Hi-Lift, you need to defeat the suspension first. why would you want to put yourself through that much freaking work, not to mention danger, when you slide a bottle jack under the control arm bracket and have the job done in 1/3rd the time?
Excuse me for ignorance show the bottle jack
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to change a tire with a Hi-Lift, you need to defeat the suspension first.
you can sling the wheel and lift off that.
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you can sling the wheel and lift off that.
if you can do that while changing the tire that's on that wheel, you're a magician.
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Excuse me for ignorance show the bottle jack
Land Rover bottle jack:


stock bottle jack lifting a 35" tire (from Jerry B).

from: http://www.wranglerforum.com/f5/bottle-jack-74037.html
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Land Rover bottle jack:

stock bottle jack lifting a 35" tire (from Jerry B).

from: http://www.wranglerforum.com/f5/bottle-jack-74037.html
Thanks...just never heard that term..i have the high-lift or the old bumper jack
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Excuse me for ignorance show the bottle jack

I've used the stock jack to change a flat 35 on my Jeep.


Quick google search.



Or you could be this guy. (note the obama sticker)

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They both jack up..whats the difference? one is not more difficult than the other?
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They both jack up..whats the difference? one is not more difficult than the other?
Are you serious? The Hi-Lift is heavier, takes longer and considerably more dangerous than the mechanical bottle jack. If you think it perfectly good to use a Hi-Lift to change a tyre then very well but recommending it to someone else is bad advice.
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What UnlimitedLJ04 is saying when you use a hi-lift you have to jack the vehicle up plus the distance for the suspension to travel then pull the wheel up. With a bottle jack you are lifting under the axle so each stroke will lift the tire since the suspension doesn't have to "drop" or extend before the tire starts to lift.
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Are you serious? The Hi-Lift is heavier, takes longer and considerably more dangerous than the mechanical bottle jack. If you think it perfectly good to use a Hi-Lift to change a tyre then very well but recommending it to someone else is bad advice.
He truly doesn't know, thus he asked. That is exactly what this forum is for.
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What UnlimitedLJ04 is saying when you use a hi-lift you have to jack the vehicle up plus the distance for the suspension to travel then pull the wheel up. With a bottle jack you are lifting under the axle so each stroke will lift the tire since the suspension doesn't have to "drop" or extend before the tire starts to lift.
Yes that is what im trying to say
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They both jack up..whats the difference? one is not more difficult than the other?
C'mon man...the pics alone speak for themselves
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Yes that is what im trying to say
So with the bottle jack you have to lift the vehicle less, not to mention there is less of a chance of the jack/ vehicle sliding out and dropping. Hi-lift jacks are awesome on the trail, but carry an extra inherited risk with each use.
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So with the bottle jack you have to lift the vehicle less, not to mention there is less of a chance of the jack/ vehicle sliding out and dropping. Hi-lift jacks are awesome on the trail, but carry an extra inherited risk with each use.
Ok. I have the idea
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Old 01-18-2013, 11:53 PM   #24
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Glad to hear it.

I'm going to have to see if there is a part number on my bottle jack since it won't lift my 35's. I wonder if the po replaced it with a different one.
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Hi-Jacks are dangerous and trouble, it happened to me! I needed to remove Jeep rear tire and used a hi-lift. I had to overcome the suspension first, the hi-lift was dangerously elevated and then more hi-lift to get the 35" in the air. I removed the tire and once the tire was off the axle hub, hi-lift started to rock. Hi-lift released and jeep rolled forward onto the brake rotor. This was a learning lesson about 3 years ago, and now 3 ton floors jacks are my friend.
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Old 01-19-2013, 08:47 AM   #26
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I'm not going the hi-lift route. I take that it is ok to jack under the control arm. That should give me enough with the land rover jack. I like the hydraulic better than sitting there cranking the stock out, but I may go hit the local junk yard again and see if I can't get a stocker as a backup.
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Old 01-19-2013, 09:55 AM   #27
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Most (all?) bottle jacks have a top piece that is threaded, which greatly increases the height of the jack. You could pick up a decent one at your local hardware store for a reasonable price, no need to find a landrover jack at a junk yard.
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my dad made this up for his bottle jack.







simple C channel with a piece of pipe welded to it. helps keep the jack from slipping on the axle tube. Also keeps a couple of 2x6s cut down to act as blocks if needed.
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I use the HighLift plastic offroad base under the bottle jack. It raises the jack enough for 35's and provides a stable base for the jack.
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Old 01-19-2013, 11:20 AM   #30
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Harbor Freight has a 4ton bottle jack on sale right now for only 12.99, even stores nicely in the OEM location, if you're like me and your Jeep is missing the OEM jack. HF doesn't always have the best quality tools, but it should do good enough for roadside tire changes:



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