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Old 11-19-2013, 12:58 AM   #1
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Brand new to Jeep land! Need help!!

Just got my first Jeep. 2005 Silver Wrangler Unlimited Hard Top with 138k Miles, Manual. Also came with a huge roof rack. I have had sports cars all my life and now wanted to get a Jeep so I can have a sports car with it. It is going to be my daily and had a few questions about it.

1. First off, most important is, do you guys put alarms on these? Since everything is manual, how does it work? Or can I just have sensors on it? I want to put one on because I feel this car is so easy to access.

2. Is there a way to tighten up the steering? I am use to sports cars and would like a tighter feel when steering, and not it being so loose.

3. I want to spray it matte black. Even rattle can it. Any ideas?

4. Clutch life on these jeeps?

5. Better way to stiffen up the suspension? I feel lots of body roll and that boat, float feeling. Or is that what I want for a Jeep?

I am sure more questions will be coming but felt like these were the most important for now. I hear these motors are bulletproof so I am not to worried about that. Thanks guys!!

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Just got my first Jeep. 2005 Silver Wrangler Unlimited Hard Top with 138k Miles, Manual. Also came with a huge roof rack. I have had sports cars all my life and now wanted to get a Jeep so I can have a sports car with it. It is going to be my daily and had a few questions about it. 1. First off, most important is, do you guys put alarms on these? Since everything is manual, how does it work? Or can I just have sensors on it? I want to put one on because I feel this car is so easy to access. 2. Is there a way to tighten up the steering? I am use to sports cars and would like a tighter feel when steering, and not it being so loose. 3. I want to spray it matte black. Even rattle can it. Any ideas? 4. Clutch life on these jeeps? 5. Better way to stiffen up the suspension? I feel lots of body roll and that boat, float feeling. Or is that what I want for a Jeep? I am sure more questions will be coming but felt like these were the most important for now. I hear these motors are bulletproof so I am not to worried about that. Thanks guys!!
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1. No, but you can
2. You can put a different steering box with a different ratio, but it's not common. It's just a difference your gonna have to get used to switching from sports cars. You won't be able to make tight turns like your used to.
3. With it being that new id hate to ruin a nice paint job by rattle canning it. Once you've been wheeling it for a few years and it's all scratched up then consider it.
4. Pretty long as far as I'm aware.
5. Idk if your suspension is stock or not. The boaty feeling will increase when lifted but either way it's gonna feel and handle different than a car. It's suspension has a lot more travel.

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Old 11-19-2013, 06:12 AM   #3
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Post your suspension and steering specs so we have an idea of any upgrades. Are you sure you want to destroy your resale vale by spray painting your rig? In a couple months you may decide that you hate your jeep and want a different vehicle. Seen it happen numerous times on this forum.
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Old 11-19-2013, 08:07 AM   #4
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You could do a matte black wrap. That way you will really be protecting your paint, and when you want it back silver just peel off the wrap. I have seen a JKU wrapped in matte black and it looked awesome.
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Old 11-19-2013, 08:32 AM   #5
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Thanks guys for your quick responses. As for alarms first, I think I will be doing it eventually for peace of mind. Is getting a Clifford or Viper good enough? Just want something to alarm when breaking glass, opening doors, hoods, etc. not much if they step close to it, rather than nothing at all. As for mods done to the jeep, I believe everything is completely stock, tires don't look stock though. I will get tire sizes ASAP (something I also gotta get use to lol) Just a roof rack that wraps around the vehicle. What if I just plasti dip it? That spray that you can just peel off? I love the matte black everything look on these jeeps. All my cars have been black. My fav color lol. I will get some pictures up ASAP as well. Maybe you guys can see something I don't. But from what I see, it is completely stock. Also, should I buy a warranty for the Jeep?
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Old 11-19-2013, 08:41 AM   #6
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Check to make sure your front and rear anti sway bars are intact and the links are not broken.
Worn out soft squishy shocks can also add to body roll, as well as your huge roof rack. I notice a little more just by putting the hardtop on for the winter.

You are correct...black is where it's at!
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Old 11-19-2013, 09:05 AM   #7
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Tires are Roadian AT II Nexen 31x10.5x15. Decent tires? Decent size? Also first gear tends to pop out sometimes. Seems like it's engaged but not? Never felt this before. Any input?
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Old 11-19-2013, 11:07 AM   #8
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I have an alarm on my Jeep.
I ALWAYS leave the doors unlocked--because I'd rather someone open the door than decide to cut my windows or top to get in. The first thing they will always try is the door handle--not cutting windows/top.

So the alarm goes off when the door is opened--or when someone steps inside when the doors are off (and fuse pulled).

This has given me a lot of piece of mind. I think if I had a hard top/full doors I might not feel the need for an alarm, but it certainly makes me feel safer.
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Cool. Yea I have full doors and hardtop. But still feel I need an alarm just for peace of mind. Just don't want to feel like they can get in with out some kind of warning.
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Old 11-19-2013, 09:40 PM   #10
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My first tj came with an alarm. Never used it. Sat parked across street from my house every night top off doors off tools in it n never lost a thing. Wife got into accident w that one n new one has no alarm. Funny how going from my truck n always keeping it locked up to dd my jeep now n never even locking the doors. If someone wants to get in they will alamed locked or unlocked. Just put doors back on not to long ago😢. DOORS SUCK!!! That my new motto
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Old 11-19-2013, 11:33 PM   #11
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I'm from Miami. So for peace of mind I think I will get an alarm for it soon. Anyone have any info on first gear wanting to pop out sometimes? How long or what rpm do you guys shift out of first? Synchros bad? Or me shifting too late? Early? I'm use to a sports car shifting quicker, I feel with the Jeep I got to slow down? Or synchros bad?
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Everything is slower in a Jeep. Turning, shifting, overall speed, everything. You'll get used to it. I find it much more enjoyable to drive this way.
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... You are correct...black is where it's at!
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I was still trying to decide between RED, BLACK or PEARL WHITE when I found mine. All black. Hard top is black, as well.
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Old 11-20-2013, 06:34 PM   #14
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Yea! I want mine all matte black.
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Old 11-21-2013, 02:51 PM   #15
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Starting to research a little more for my TJ. Looking to do a 2 inch lift with spacers due to my budget and really not looking to off road right now. Any opinions on brands? Pros and cons? Also if I do a spacer lift kit, can I use my stock shocks? Another way to save money to just buy spacers without shocks Thanks guys.
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Starting to research a little more for my TJ. Looking to do a 2 inch lift with spacers due to my budget and really not looking to off road right now. Any opinions on brands? Pros and cons? Also if I do a spacer lift kit, can I use my stock shocks? Another way to save money to just buy spacers without shocks Thanks guys.
You can use your stock shocks. Teraflex seems to be a pretty popular budget boost on the forums. As well as the spacer lifts from skyjacker and rough country as they are cheap and fine of you aren't doing serious offroading.
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Old 11-21-2013, 05:44 PM   #17
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Remember if you lift it, you will feel more body roll. You are raising your center of gravity, and increasing the apparent arm of rotation. Just so you are aware.

What color is it now? Do you want a unique vehicle, or one that looks like everybody else's black jeep.
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Cool, so stock shocks will work. Once I do that lift, does anything else need to be done, Alignment? etc. Yea I kept in mind about the body roll. But since I am using it as a daily cruiser for now, I wont be taking any hard turns or being speedy around town lol. Just want to get it set up and look the way I like these jeeps.

Any popular sites, good pricing, discounts for parts for my Jeep?

It is that metallic silver with a gray hard top. And 15 inch Eagle Alloy rims. Whats funny is that Ive always liked that matted look before it got really popular, but never had the money to do it. And black is just my favorite color, all my cars were black. Wanted it in all my sports cars, but the Jeep lines I feel are perfect for it. I think what I will do is make a little project out of it. If I get into off roading then that will be a different story lol. For now it will be my street jeep.
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Old 11-21-2013, 06:20 PM   #20
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Thanks. How are the quality of 15'' Eagle Alloy wheels? Has studs on the outer lip.
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Old 11-21-2013, 06:43 PM   #21
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With only 2" you shouldn't have to do anything with the transfer case or anything I don't think. I believe an alignment would be all you need.
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Cool. How soon should I do it? With my cars I usually have to wait till the car settled before I get an alignment. Thanks
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Cool. How soon should I do it? With my cars I usually have to wait till the car settled before I get an alignment. Thanks
That I couldn't really tell you. My gut says to get it done within a week of installing the lift. Maybe somebody else can give better advice.
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That I couldn't really tell you. My gut says to get it done within a week of installing the lift. Maybe somebody else can give better advice.
I bought my rig without knowing a whole lot [read: nothing] about Jeeps ad the dealership had installed a lift and some offroad tires to move it off the lot. Bought it in October last year and didn't realize it may have been a hack job till June this year. Checked the toe and it was about 2" in lol

My tires were pretty worn in front but that's about it. Rotated those puppies and set the toe correctly and they have barely worn since.
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Wow lol
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Thanks guys for your quick responses. As for alarms first, I think I will be doing it eventually for peace of mind. Is getting a Clifford or Viper good enough? Just want something to alarm when breaking glass, opening doors, hoods, etc. not much if they step close to it, rather than nothing at all. As for mods done to the jeep, I believe everything is completely stock, tires don't look stock though. I will get tire sizes ASAP (something I also gotta get use to lol) Just a roof rack that wraps around the vehicle. What if I just plasti dip it? That spray that you can just peel off? I love the matte black everything look on these jeeps. All my cars have been black. My fav color lol. I will get some pictures up ASAP as well. Maybe you guys can see something I don't. But from what I see, it is completely stock. Also, should I buy a warranty for the Jeep?
Sorry but it's a jeep there is over 10 ways to brake into a 2005 jeep with out your alarm going off. On a Viper alarm there is a app on a iPhone that can disarm it anyways. And if you use locking hood brackets they can be unscrewed aswell so my point is it's not a sports car, lift it! Big tires and if you get sea sick use a patch because " ITS A JEEP THING" lol good luck with the 05 unlimited dump some cash and post pics
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Everything is slower in a Jeep. Turning, shifting, overall speed, everything. You'll get used to it. I find it much more enjoyable to drive this way.
With a Jeep it's the journey, not the destination. I drive in a Jeep. I travel in a Toyota Sienna. Short Time in transit is not important in my Jeep. In my Jeep a 20min drive to cover 5mi is just fine....it's an adventure in a Jeep. It's just a drive in anything else. IMO
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Thanks zitnik and 1911rocks. I guess the alarm is more for peace of mind. Just so I can sleep at night if I weren't home lol. And I'm beginning to feel that journey in a jeep. Just cruising. Everything slower, etc. I'm almost thee completely feeling that way. And I have to give this forum some credit. Many helpful people and quick helpful responses.

I would also like a little sound for my jeep. Any decent fairly priced exhaust systems for this? Magnaflow I'm hearing is popular. Looking for just a deep sound nothing crazy loud. Just to feel the ruggedness of my jeep if that makes any sense. Thanks again guys.
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With a Jeep it's the journey, not the destination. I drive in a Jeep. I travel in a Toyota Sienna. Short Time in transit is not important in my Jeep. In my Jeep a 20min drive to cover 5mi is just fine....it's an adventure in a Jeep. It's just a drive in anything else. IMO
Exactly.
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Thanks zitnik and 1911rocks. I guess the alarm is more for peace of mind. Just so I can sleep at night if I weren't home lol. And I'm beginning to feel that journey in a jeep. Just cruising. Everything slower, etc. I'm almost thee completely feeling that way. And I have to give this forum some credit. Many helpful people and quick helpful responses.

I would also like a little sound for my jeep. Any decent fairly priced exhaust systems for this? Magnaflow I'm hearing is popular. Looking for just a deep sound nothing crazy loud. Just to feel the ruggedness of my jeep if that makes any sense. Thanks again guys.
Magnaflow is popular. I've heard good things about Borla too.

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