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Old 12-08-2010, 07:52 PM   #1
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buying a dana 44 front axle

where is a good place to buy/order a dana 44 front axle for a TJ? besides craigslist of coarse, i have looked at every craigslist posting within 500 miles of me. i need to upgrade the gears in the front axle to match the rears (4.56) and cant justify building up a d30. Any good sites or people selling one? have to do it before the snow really flies. thanks

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where is a good place to buy/order a dana 44 front axle for a TJ? besides craigslist of coarse, i have looked at every craigslist posting within 500 miles of me. i need to upgrade the gears in the front axle to match the rears (4.56) and cant justify building up a d30. Any good sites or people selling one? have to do it before the snow really flies. thanks
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Figure 3k for a custom one. Rockcrusher, dynatrac, currie...

Or Get a HP dana 30 out of late model XJ..add 30 spline shafts and your done good for 35-36's.
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Or jeep. Get a rubicon front axle.

The maybe cheeper more labor intencive. Find just any dana 44 and take it to a axle shop. Have them cut the tubes and set up the mounts for the front of your tj. While there at it they could do your gears too.
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Or jeep. Get a rubicon front axle.

The maybe cheeper more labor intencive. Find just any dana 44 and take it to a axle shop. Have them cut the tubes and set up the mounts for the front of your tj. While there at it they could do your gears too.
problem with that is it adds up fast. i just finished an 8.8 build that after an eaton e-locker, superior shafts, and gears, brackets, brakes, and everything its cost me around $2500. So for that i could have almost bought a brand new aftermarket axle. trying to go slightly cheaper, ha
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He doesn't currently have any front 44s. I checked earlier this week.
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He doesn't currently have any front 44s. I checked earlier this week.
yup me too, check last week, thats got to be a common e-mail for him huh?
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problem with that is it adds up fast. i just finished an 8.8 build that after an eaton e-locker, superior shafts, and gears, brackets, brakes, and everything its cost me around $2500. So for that i could have almost bought a brand new aftermarket axle. trying to go slightly cheaper, ha
For the $2500 you have invested, you couldn't get a comparable D44. You've got a better, stonger rearend than a D44, so it's still money well spent.

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I wouldn't consider a TJ Rubicon D44 an upgrade to the D30 at all. From the Rubicon's front D44 axle tubes outward it is pure D30. Personally I would keep the D30 or get a high pinion D30 from a late model XJ which holds up well to being locked with up to 35" tires.
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I wouldn't consider a TJ Rubicon D44 an upgrade to the D30 at all. From the Rubicon's front D44 axle tubes outward it is pure D30. Personally I would keep the D30 or get a high pinion D30 from a late model XJ which holds up well to being locked with up to 35" tires.
thats the route i went.. i have $250 in my hp30 (not including brakes/diff cover) and i had it regeared to match my d44 (no stock hp30s came in 3.73s to my knowledge)

yah i shoulda had both axles regeared higher.. but i didnt have the money at the time
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I wouldn't consider a TJ Rubicon D44 an upgrade to the D30 at all. From the Rubicon's front D44 axle tubes outward it is pure D30. Personally I would keep the D30 or get a high pinion D30 from a late model XJ which holds up well to being locked with up to 35" tires.
I have read this in a few other places too. The thing i worry about is after i put chromolly shafts and a locker in that the ring and pinion will be the weekest point. i just want to build the best front axle for the money.
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I have read this in a few other places too. The thing i worry about is after i put chromolly shafts and a locker in that the ring and pinion will be the weekest point. i just want to build the best front axle for the money.
the front axle only receives about 50 percent of the torque the rear axle receives.
For that reason, the front ring and pinion gears are nprmally fine being locked with up to 35 inch tires. I ran my front dana 30 with Warn alloy axle shafts with a locker and 35 inch tires for years doing rock crawling without problem.
Personally, I believe your front dana 30 will be fine as is with alloy axle shafts and a locker with up to 35 inch tires.
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its sounding like im about to build a D30 up, ha. Im installing an eaton e locker in the rear (its in my kitchen right now) this week and wasnt sure if it was worth the $800 to put one in the front too or should i go with some sort of posi?
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i run a dana 30 on stock axles with a very limited slip locker on 37" and have no problem.
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what do you guys think about the RCV Ultimate Dana 30 CV front axles? they sound awsome with the CV joints. expensive though
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just get some chromys and superior u-joints. add locker of your choice and ypur set
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what do you guys think about the RCV Ultimate Dana 30 CV front axles? they sound awsome with the CV joints. expensive though
Very expensive for overbuilding it for the D30's 35" upper realistic tire size limit limit. You can build the axle shafts and u-joints up to handle 37" but the axle's ball joints, brakes, steering etc. aren't really up to going bigger than 35".

If you are going with 35" tires and a locker, standard alloy axle shafts like Superior Axle's Evolution Series 27 spline shafts together with Spicer 5-760x u-joints will hold up fine to pretty much anything you can throw at it. I wheeled my 27 spline alloy (from Warn) axle shafts pushing a locker and 35" tires through Johnson Valley trails like Sledgehammer with no issues. I broke the factory axleshaft on my first trip through Sledgehammer but no problems after upgrading to 27 spline alloy axle shafts.

Never had a R&P problem with my D30 on anything my rig was capable of running with 35" MT/Rs.
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Very expensive for overbuilding it for the D30's 35" upper realistic tire size limit limit. You can build the axle shafts and u-joints up to handle 37" but the axle's ball joints, brakes, steering etc. aren't really up to going bigger than 35".

If you are going with 35" tires and a locker, standard alloy axle shafts like Superior Axle's Evolution Series 27 spline shafts together with Spicer 5-760x u-joints will hold up fine to pretty much anything you can throw at it. I wheeled my 27 spline alloy (from Warn) axle shafts pushing a locker and 35" tires through Johnson Valley trails like Sledgehammer with no issues. I broke the factory axleshaft on my first trip through Sledgehammer but no problems after upgrading to 27 spline alloy axle shafts.

Never had a R&P problem with my D30 on anything my rig was capable of running with 35" MT/Rs.
Im looking at the Alloy USA Grande 30/30 kit, its chromoly, 30 spline and comes with 30 spline hubs. Mated to an Eaton e- locker (30 spline). Both from completeoffroad.com. I trust your advice 100% i just am having a hard time justifying a $2000 d30 build jerry, ha, when i know that inevidbly i will go to d60's in a few years when my skills progress.
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What size tires are you planning on running? If they aren't larger than 35" which is the max size for a D30 anyway, I would go with Superior Axle 27 spline Evolution Series hardened alloy axle shafts and a lunchbox locker up front unless you absolutely need to run 4x4 there in the winter where a selectable locker is a good idea.

That combination, hardened alloy 27 spline shafts and a lunchbox locker held up fine for me to some of the toughest rock crawling with 35" MT/Rs. And that'll save you a bundle of $$$. There's no real need or benefit to 30 spline alloy axle shafts to something like Superior Axle's 27 spline hardened Evolution Series axle shafts up front for 35" tires. Besides, even though I have run three different Alloy USA axle shafts in the rear, I'm done with Alloy USA and will switch my Alloy USA rear shafts over to Superior Axle's rear alloy shafts to match my front shafts when I can. I didn't like what I saw when a friend busted his 35 spline Alloy USA Dana 44 axle shaft doing Johnson Valley.
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What size tires are you planning on running? If they aren't larger than 35" which is the max size for a D30 anyway, I would go with Superior Axle 27 spline Evolution Series hardened alloy axle shafts and a lunchbox locker up front unless you absolutely need to run 4x4 there in the winter where a selectable locker is a good idea.

That combination, hardened alloy 27 spline shafts and a lunchbox locker held up fine for me to some of the toughest rock crawling with 35" MT/Rs. And that'll save you a bundle of $$$. There's no real need or benefit to 30 spline alloy axle shafts to something like Superior Axle's 27 spline hardened Evolution Series axle shafts up front for 35" tires. Besides, even though I have run three different Alloy USA axle shafts in the rear, I'm done with Alloy USA and will switch my Alloy USA rear shafts over to Superior Axle's rear alloy shafts to match my front shafts when I can. I didn't like what I saw when a friend busted his 35 spline Alloy USA Dana 44 axle shaft doing Johnson Valley.
i am running 35's right now and really like that size, no plans for going larger in the immediate future. The Evolution series now looks like they are all 30 spline? i like the superior axle company, i have a set of their super88 axles waiting for my rear axle so it would be cool to use them in the front as well. as for the lunchbox locker...not a good idea in the northeast, could be a problem with all the snow we get in upstate NY. Are the stock axle shafts of the D30 27 spline? Im pricing the evolution series shafts right now and planning on ordering them and an Eaton e-locker to match the rear thats going in tonight or tomorrow.
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To the best of my knowledge, Superior makes hardened 27 spline axle shafts for the front Dana 30 but their website is not the best so they might but I can't confirm it. If they don't, Warn sold their hardened chromolly axle shaft and hub line to Randy's Ring & Pinion so I'm fairly certain that Randy's has the same 27 spline hardened axle shafts that Warn made that I installed into my '97 that held up so well to being locked with 35" tires. Randy's Ring & Pinion. The Differential Experts. Auto Parts & Services. and Superior Axle & Gear
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To the best of my knowledge, Superior makes hardened 27 spline axle shafts for the front Dana 30 but their website is not the best so they might but I can't confirm it. If they don't, Warn sold their hardened chromolly axle shaft and hub line to Randy's Ring & Pinion so I'm fairly certain that Randy's has the same 27 spline hardened axle shafts that Warn made that I installed into my '97 that held up so well to being locked with 35" tires. Randy's Ring & Pinion. The Differential Experts. Auto Parts & Services. and Superior Axle & Gear
thanks for your help jerry, i just ordered the evolution series shafts, eaton locker e locker, and gears from superiors website. it was funny i was debating weather or not to order or keep price searching, got up to grab a fresh beer, came back and the website had changed! ! they cut their prices for a sale and i ended up saving $450 as apposed to the prices i almost payed 10 min before. Awsome
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Nice, that is sweet! I have a friend who's a dealer for Superior I was going to give you but it's too late now. He probably could have beat their prices. If something doesn't go right at Superior, contact Gerald Lee at gman@savvyoffroad.com who occasionally comes up with some pretty amazing prices for Superior and Currie stuff.
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