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Old 05-28-2013, 07:18 PM   #1
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Buying advice for a newb..

Hello folks!

I have made the decision, finally, to save up and buy a Wrangler..

My question to you is two part..

Which trim should I look at ( Sport, Sahara, Rubicon)? I am looking at '97-'01 to keep cost down..main activity would be light trailer towing, light- moderate off roading, camping and hunting

What would the price range be for whatever you recommend?

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Old 05-28-2013, 07:21 PM   #2
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Do a search and do a lot of reading. There is no one answer. It's going to depend on you and the deal that comes along.

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Old 05-29-2013, 02:41 AM   #3
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towing in a wrangler? better be really light towing. sounds like a Grand Cherokee might be a better vehicle.

I agree you have to do a lot more reading and begin going out and actually looking at and driving a bunch of used wranglers in order to gage what is best for you. its fun.
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Which trim should I look at ( Sport, Sahara, Rubicon)? I am looking at '97-'01 to keep cost down..

First = Sport - typically the least expensive of the three, get one with a Dana 44 rear end if possible

Second = Sahara - typically more expensive than the Sport (color matched body cladding), get one with a Dana 44 rear end if possible




The Rubicon is typically the most expensive of the three and is only available for 2003 and up.


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main activity would be light trailer towing

2000 lb towing capacity - I wouldn't be comfortable approaching that limit with the short wheelbase


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What would the price range be for whatever you recommend?

Too many variables - your best bet would be to post up what you find and the forum members will be able to tell you what's what as far as price is concerned.
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First = Sport - typically the least expensive of the three, get one with a Dana 44 rear end if possible

Second = Sahara - typically more expensive than the Sport (color matched body cladding), get one with a Dana 44 rear end if possible




The Rubicon is typically the most expensive of the three and is only available for 2003 and up.





2000 lb towing capacity - I wouldn't be comfortable approaching that limit with the short wheelbase





Too many variables - your best bet would be to post up what you find and the forum members will be able to tell you what's what as far as price is concerned.
X2 Sport and Sahara both come with the 4.0L so no worries there. Would make sure that they have the D44. Wish I would have known about the D35 when I bought mine. A Rubicon is out of your year range but if you decided to get a Rubicon might as well get a LJ Rubicon for better towing capabilities (longer wheelbase)
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Honestly I think the best starting point would be what price range you were considering, what you plan to do with it as far as modifications (lift/tires/etc....not activities), what you're looking for as far as mileage goes, if it's a second vehicle or D/D, and a little more clarification on the towing; because LJ or TJ doesn't matter much, they're not for towing (maybe a boat short distances and whatnot).

For instance, it's an extra vehicle for me, so (this time around) I wanted something to play with without a top, lift, MAYBE tow my quad/snowmobile on a small trailer, and wanted something in a lower price range so I could do it up the way I wanted. I opted for a high mileage 5spd Sport (D44) to start with because I bought it CHEAP; so there was plenty of money left to add things I want as I go.

Having had TJs before I started the process with a bit of a "dream sheet" and I knew I only wanted solar yellow (so sahara was out, and rubis are too much dough for an extra toy). So narrowing in on what's important to you and how much is in the pot will certainly help. I like the idea of posting up what you've been looking at as well.
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Honestly I think the best starting point would be what price range you were considering, what you plan to do with it as far as modifications (lift/tires/etc....not activities), what you're looking for as far as mileage goes, if it's a second vehicle or D/D, and a little more clarification on the towing; because LJ or TJ doesn't matter much, they're not for towing (maybe a boat short distances and whatnot).

For instance, it's an extra vehicle for me, so (this time around) I wanted something to play with without a top, lift, MAYBE tow my quad/snowmobile on a small trailer, and wanted
something in a lower price range so I could do it up the way I wanted. I opted for a high mileage 5spd Sport (D44) to start with because I bought it CHEAP; so there was plenty of money left to add things I want as I go.

Having had TJs before I started the process with a bit of a "dream sheet" and I knew I only wanted solar yellow (so sahara was out, and rubis are too much dough for an extra toy). So narrowing in on what's important to you and how much is in the pot will certainly help. I like the idea of posting up what you've been looking at as well.

Thank you all for the great advice!

This would be a secondary vehicle, weekend camping, toting around town on the weekends..

Towing wise it would be minimal.. Something akin to a 4 ft by 6 ft flat trailer ( similar to what you'd buy at a Home Depot or lowes) just to load coolers, ice chests, supplies for camping

Budget wise.. I'd like to stay under $8000 if possible.

Can you tell me, what does a Dana 44 give you that a 35 stock doesn't? Is the 35 stock typically in that model range?

Mod wise, I'd like a 2-3 inch lift at most.. Something to give it a little clearance.. Also, some upgraded all terrains, and maybe some extra skid plates underneath..other than that, I'm pretty sold on the idea of full doors and a hard top. Maybe adding a winch down the road, some KC lights, and one of them fuel can holders..Also, an automatic would be preferred..
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Thank you all for the great advice!

This would be a secondary vehicle, weekend camping, toting around town on the weekends..

Towing wise it would be minimal.. Something akin to a 4 ft by 6 ft flat trailer ( similar to what you'd buy at a Home Depot or lowes) just to load coolers, ice chests, supplies for camping

Budget wise.. I'd like to stay under $8000 if possible.

Can you tell me, what does a Dana 44 give you that a 35 stock doesn't? Is the 35 stock typically in that model range?

Mod wise, I'd like a 2-3 inch lift at most.. Something to give it a little clearance.. Also, some upgraded all terrains, and maybe some extra skid plates underneath..other than that, I'm pretty sold on the idea of full doors and a hard top. Maybe adding a winch down the road, some KC lights, and one of them fuel can holders..Also, an automatic would be preferred..
Well it certainly sounds like you've got a good idea about what you'd like and what you'd like it to do; especially as a weekend toy. I think you are VERY apt to find something to your liking in that price range (I spent half of that on the truck honestly). I think you'd even be able to do a good bit of the things on your "dream sheet" with that budget as well.

Towing what you're thinking of will be absolutely no problem.

The Dana 44 is just a better rear end simply put. Jeeps are for sale all over; find one with the best equipment is a no brainer. Just google image the Dana 44 rear end when you go to look at a truck and you'll be able to tell the difference.

Being that you want to stick to a hardtop and full doors; I would go for a Sahara (nice interior, painted flares, most are D44, most have air conditioning); a lot of them I see up here have hardtops anyways. But having both tops is a nice perk if you get the itch down the road.

You're right to prefer an automatic for what you want to do. I have a stick and like most people will tell you, the auto is really what you want for offroad; especially with a trailer. Don't get me wrong, I love a manual, but there are times when it gets old; honestly I only opted for a manual because obviously my pickup is an auto (and a shitty GM tranny at that!). You might get conflicting opinions from the die-hards who love manuals but hey that's my take on it.

Start posting up some links!
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Found this one down the road at a small dealer specializing in jeeps..

1998 Jeep Wrangler | 202 W. Kenosha | Broken Arrow , OK 74012 | Broken Arrow, Oklahoma | 918-258-3000 | Broken Arrow Motor Company

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I think he's over priced by at least 3k
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Found this one down the road at a small dealer specializing in jeeps..

1998 Jeep Wrangler | 202 W. Kenosha | Broken Arrow , OK 74012 | Broken Arrow, Oklahoma | 918-258-3000 | Broken Arrow Motor Company

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I think he's over priced by at least 3k
Yea if you could get it for around 8 out the door it'd be great. No way 11+ out the door as advertised.
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Yeah I don't even think it has the Dana 44!
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This guy is $1500 over KBB
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Yeah I took a look around it.. It's bone stock, I believe Dana 35's.. The guy has a nice selection, but everything looks priced over retail!

Take a look at the inventory, am I missing something or is everything just priced too high?

www.brokenarrowmotorco.com. Welcome to Broken Arrow Motor Company web site. | 202 W. Kenosha | Broken Arrow , OK 74012 | 918-258-3000 |
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Your right about his selection, very nice! Most of those jeeps have low miles which is a plus.
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in one of these threads is pics of the rear ends (front and rear housings)..it shows what they look like from out side so you can look your self(to spot a d44 or 35)..the dealers will say what it takes to sell you something..
when i looked for mine i used a couple difrent sites..
autotrader.com was one..they let you pick price and distance from home(zipcode) to start your serch
cargurus.com shows same thing but give you some idea of good buy or bad buy from a KBB rating (kelly blue book)
and sevral others site too..i did google search (used jeep wranglers) and clicked thru a lot of site....A LOT..
i found an 04 X which had the 4.0 and auto with a\c and only 66k miles..but no D44.(i plan on D60's in future so D44 was not a must)

before you buy anything..check KBB.com..it will tell you what it should be in your area(prices)..and of course here...these guys have seen all most every thing and know what to look for

i found alot of them for 5k to 6k that were very nice but higher mileage ..mine is my DD so i went lower miles

good luck man..hope you find that gem that was over looked..
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Great pics! Thank you for the help
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haha..nice..i found this forum by asking dana id pics in google..
to bad they dont just stamp it..DANA 44..that would make it much simpler..

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