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Old 01-10-2014, 05:15 PM   #1
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Question Buying an 05 Rubi from up north?

Hey forum!
I'm in the market for a new Jeep and I'm looking to buy pretty soon.
I went to the Jeep dealership website and they have an '05 Rubicon Unlimited (LJ) for only $12,500!! (manual of course) 113,000 miles, and from the pictures it looks in decent shape. I pulled up the carfax: ONLY 1 OWNER, this is like my dream Jeep so far. and then I see it, the Jeep is from Colorado. Now I'm only 20 and have never been out of FL, so I don't know how modern Jeeps or any modern car for that matter, deals with the salt on the road. Should I be weary about buying a newish Jeep from up north? Did they start rust proofing the undercarriage and body by 2005? Obviously I'm going to check the undercarriage before I buy (and anywhere else I can check) but I just want to here from you guys and gals, so lay it on me.

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Old 01-10-2014, 05:33 PM   #2
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I have a 2005 and went to FLORIDA to get one without a rusted frame like some are here in OHIO. Make sure the frame is solid.

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Old 01-10-2014, 05:37 PM   #3
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...i'm from south dakota...

salt is insidious!

it takes very careful attention to detail, and fastidious cleaning to keep salt from gaining a foothold on a vehicle.

wranglers are easier than most to keep rust free, because of the tub, and the open frame and underside access...that said, most people have never seen the underside of their vehicle...

i have seen frames almost rusted through...as in major flaking and scale...

northern states have taken to using more salt than ever before, because of two reasons...

first the salt is cheaper and quicker than running a diesel plow, and saves money in time and fuel, and the salt truck driver can be a $12/hr monkey instead of a $35/hr grader operator.

second is the reason that honks me off the most...the bimmers have to have no ice on the pavement for their fat little no sidewall tires to get traction...hence the salt...
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Old 01-10-2014, 05:44 PM   #4
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I live in B.C. Cananda( now that's up north). My 04 rubicon Is pretty much mint...and it's for sale.lol.just sayin...I was quite suprised at some of the pictures posted on here of rotted tj frames..most people just don't know or care about maintenance when it comes to boxed frames..
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Old 01-13-2014, 10:02 PM   #5
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Yeah the Rubi was in pretty bad shape, just besides the rust, the seats were ripped, one of the heealights were out, and one tail light case was broken, all cheap fixes but it was obvious the PO didnt take care of it.

In regards to you selling your 04, as much as I'd love to drive up to Canada, I'm looking for an 05-06 just so I can get a 6-Speed.

I'm going to go look at another Rubi tomorrow (swb) its a little more pricier but it looks in better shape then the other one.

So let me get this straight about the Rubis, the extras are:

D44 is front and rear

Beafier T-Case (which means what exactly, i know what a t case is but what does a bigger one do?)

Higher gear ratios ( the only thing I know these are good for are bigger tires, anything else theyre good for?)

Rocker guards on the sides

am i missing anything else besides the sticker on the hood?

Please explain what all these are oh and
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Old 01-14-2014, 03:16 AM   #6
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Avoid the 6 speed... It's has had more issues over time then the 5-speed nv3550. Rubi will have lower gear ratios in the transfer case, easier to crawl with no throttle. Dana 44 front and rear with lockers.. They're Stronger with Lower gear ratios (4:10.) Higher resale value.
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Old 01-14-2014, 09:11 AM   #7
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Avoid the 6 speed... It's has had more issues over time then the 5-speed nv3550. Rubi will have lower gear ratios in the transfer case, easier to crawl with no throttle. Dana 44 front and rear with lockers.. They're Stronger with Lower gear ratios (4:10.) Higher resale value.
I've got over 100K on my 05 Rubi 6 spd, haven't had any issues with the tranny.
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What NH said...also LOCKING diffs, and rear discs. Overall condition? Northern vehicle? All comes down to how the PO took care of it. They paid the extra $$ for a Rubicon, so chances are they were into it and took care of it
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I've got over 100K on my 05 Rubi 6 spd, haven't had any issues with the tranny.
My brothers 06 rubicon has not given him any issues either but statistically, the 6-speeds have had more issues than the 5-speeds. The gears are also taller also so less get up and go than the 5-speed. I think the 6 speed is made by Mercedes and parts can be $$$. Don't get me wrong I'm not saying it's a junk transmission, but if I had to choose is go 5 speed.
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I have 163,431 miles on my 2006 Rubi and no issues with my 6 speed at all.
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...The gears are also taller also so less get up and go than the 5-speed...
I think you've got that backwards. The 6-speed is geared lower than the 5-speed, so you have a little more get up and go. 5th gear in the 5-speeds is even higher than 6th gear in the 6-speed. Here are the gear ratios:

AX-15
1st - 3.83
2nd - 2.33
3rd - 1.44
4th - 1.00
5th - 0.79
Rev - 4.22

NV3550
1st - 4.01
2nd - 2.33
3rd - 1.39
4th - 1.00
5th - 0.78
Rev - 3.57

NSG370
1st - 4.46
2nd - 2.61
3rd - 1.72
4th - 1.25
5th - 1.00
6th - 0.84
Rev - 4.06
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Shop around. Just got a 04 Rubicon, lifted and more for a great price. Needed tires but got 4 duratracks for 800 out the door plus got a 60.00 rebate on top of that then sold old tires for 100..so $640.00 Frame is mint and drives great. I waited almost a year for the right one to come along. Had it a month now and looks different than pic now. lights, tires and bumpers on way now.

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