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Old 06-02-2013, 10:29 AM   #31
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If you even think you might start getting more into the rock crawling and upgrading your jeep just save the extra money and upgrade to the flex control arms, save you money in the long run especially if you are going to run an sye or a tummy tuck to get the driveline set.

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I just purchased a silver 2000 Sport which has a 3" BDS lift with their shocks, steering stabilizer, disconnects, and the fixed-length BDS lower control arms. The tires were worn completely out, so it suffered from intermittent vibrations. Yesterday I put on a new set of 33x12.50 BFG AT-KO's, and the vibrations are gone. I haven't had a chance to try it off-road yet, but it handles well on-road. The front seems to be about an inch or so lower than the rear, but I don't know if I will add spacers in the front or not. I gave my daughter my yellow 2000 Sport which is still basically stock on 31's, so this Jeep (my sixth one) is my first lifted one. I was actually looking for a stock TJ, but this one was in too good of condition to pass up, and I had read many positive comments on the Forum about BDS lifts. Hopefully I can update my profile and add some pics soon.
I know when I first put my lift on it vibrated pretty badly. I did not balance the tires when I got the lift and after balancing it was drastically better. With your new tires, the balance is most likely spot on. Something to keep an eye on in the future.

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This BDS lift appears to have been on the Jeep a long time, since the tires were so worn out and the shocks have a little rust on them. It also has the transfer case drop installed. Some have commented that the BDS non-adjustable control arms are not the best, but they are in great shape so I will leave them alone for now. At least they have grease fittings. Do you have the 3" lift as well, and what control arms are you running?
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This BDS lift appears to have been on the Jeep a long time, since the tires were so worn out and the shocks have a little rust on them. It also has the transfer case drop installed. Some have commented that the BDS non-adjustable control arms are not the best, but they are in great shape so I will leave them alone for now. At least they have grease fittings. Do you have the 3" lift as well, and what control arms are you running?
I do have the 3" lift and it was installed in April so it is brand new. I had the 5500 shocks, not the FOX shocks, new springs, sway bars and a 5500 Steering stabilizer installed.

I still have the stock control arms. I have not done the SYE or CV Driveshaft, MML or transfer case drop. My performance so far after having a 4WD Alignment and balance has been great. I have driven about 1000 or so road miles and offroad 2 weekends.

Many have said I need the new control arms to get the castor back to original specs. I can't disagree with that logic but I can only speak for my experience so far. Long term I will add control arms and most likely will do adjustable. Not sure it will be the BDS control arms, but I don't see any real problems with them. Lots of different opinions on control arms here in the forum but most say to get some type of Johnny Joint system for longer longevity and better flexibility. I cannot debate that myself.

But right now, it is riding better than stock both onroad and off. I am very pleased so far.
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I do have the 3" lift and it was installed in April so it is brand new. I had the 5500 shocks, not the FOX shocks, new springs, sway bars and a 5500 Steering stabilizer installed.

I still have the stock control arms. I have not done the SYE or CV Driveshaft, MML or transfer case drop. My performance so far after having a 4WD Alignment and balance has been great. I have driven about 1000 or so road miles and offroad 2 weekends.

Many have said I need the new control arms to get the castor back to original specs. I can't disagree with that logic but I can only speak for my experience so far. Long term I will add control arms and most likely will do adjustable. Not sure it will be the BDS control arms, but I don't see any real problems with them. Lots of different opinions on control arms here in the forum but most say to get some type of Johnny Joint system for longer longevity and better flexibility. I cannot debate that myself.

But right now, it is riding better than stock both onroad and off. I am very pleased so far.
Sounds like our lifts are very similar except for my control arms, spencerlj. Mine also has the transfer case drop. Like you, I may make some changes later when more funds are available, but for now this BDS lift is handling fine. I look forward to taking it off-road at Turkey Bay near where I live, but that will be tame compared to what a lot of others on the Forum are tackling with their Jeeps. I can't afford to tear up my daily driver.
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Sounds like our lifts are very similar except for my control arms, spencerlj. Mine also has the transfer case drop. Like you, I may make some changes later when more funds are available, but for now this BDS lift is handling fine. I look forward to taking it off-road at Turkey Bay near where I live, but that will be tame compared to what a lot of others on the Forum are tackling with their Jeeps. I can't afford to tear up my daily driver.
Mine is a daily driver too and I don't do anything crazy offroad myself. I have fun, don't get me wrong and I have found that I can have a great time offroad, not break anything and have a great time. I have never felt that I needed to prove that my ride can be the craziest climber, crawler or mudslinger. I just love going offroad, having a great ride where normal cars cannot get to and get away from things. Then at the end of the day, I can drive it home. That is a great day! The new lift allows me that extra security that nothing will break and I have been able to easily go places I was not able to before with ease, comfort and of course, style!
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Mine is a daily driver too and I don't do anything crazy offroad myself. I have fun, don't get me wrong and I have found that I can have a great time offroad, not break anything and have a great time. I have never felt that I needed to prove that my ride can be the craziest climber, crawler or mudslinger. I just love going offroad, having a great ride where normal cars cannot get to and get away from things. Then at the end of the day, I can drive it home. That is a great day! The new lift allows me that extra security that nothing will break and I have been able to easily go places I was not able to before with ease, comfort and of course, style!
Yeah, that is what I want to do, too. I will be sure to go with some experienced friends, even if I spring for a winch later. I agree with your statement about "getting away from things". That, plus their heritage, is what makes our Jeeps so awesome. Even if money was no object, there would still be nothing else that I would rather drive.
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Did anyone have any vibrations following install? I have only felt it twice and both times it was when I was going 35-45mph. I suspect it may be the tire balance as I did not rebalance the tires after I purchased them already installed and balanced. Would intermittent vibes come from out of balance tires? Seems like a cheap way to test before installing more parts.
BDS 2" lift with their shocks and caster correction bolts.

Had some vibration after install and installed the caster correction bolts, turned out to be a wheel weight I lost the day after I installed it when I went wheeling.

After 2 months of running the lift and 4 outings now I still love it, handles like stock on the road and will soon find out how its going to behave with 33s.
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I thought I'd post in the thread again. I am still impressed with my BDS 3 inch. I added a heavy bumper and Warn M8000 winch last month and I did not loose any lift as of yet.
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BDS 2" lift with their shocks and caster correction bolts.

Had some vibration after install and installed the caster correction bolts, turned out to be a wheel weight I lost the day after I installed it when I went wheeling.

After 2 months of running the lift and 4 outings now I still love it, handles like stock on the road and will soon find out how its going to behave with 33s.
That was the same I found with my vibration. After balancing it went away. I agree that it handles great on and off road. I love it. I have 33's and feel it is a great mix with the 3" lift. I have not had any rubbing or hitting the fenders offroad. Just make sure your wheels have correct backspacing.
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I thought I'd post in the thread again. I am still impressed with my BDS 3 inch. I added a heavy bumper and Warn M8000 winch last month and I did not loose any lift as of yet.
Glad to hear that as that is my next step. What bumper did you add? Was it just the front or back bumper as well?
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Glad to hear that as that is my next step. What bumper did you add? Was it just the front or back bumper as well?
I did the Smitty XRC front bumper about 5 months ago and later added the winch. The winch has been on about a month.
The rear is the Smitty classic with D rings and tire carrier. It has been on about 6 months
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I did the Smitty XRC front bumper about 5 months ago and later added the winch. The winch has been on about a month.
The rear is the Smitty classic with D rings and tire carrier. It has been on about 6 months
I see they have 2 XRC models on Quadratec. One is the Standard and the other a Stinger. I honestly have never figured out what a Stinger's purpose is. I like the angles on this bumper. How hard was it to install?
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The Stinger is designed to keep the hood off the rocks in a roll over. I am not sure I believe or trust that.

The bumper was not hard to install at all. I did it myself with the aid of a jack and two jack stands.

When I took it off to put the winch on, I didn't use anything. I just picked it and the winch (already mounted) up sat it on, lined it up and started two bolts then snugged everything down.

1st time it was colder than damnit and was in the middle of a freezing rain storm, man I sure am impatient. lol
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The Stinger is designed to keep the hood off the rocks in a roll over. I am not sure I believe or trust that.

The bumper was not hard to install at all. I did it myself with the aid of a jack and two jack stands.

When I took it off to put the winch on, I didn't use anything. I just picked it and the winch (already mounted) up sat it on, lined it up and started two bolts then snugged everything down.

1st time it was colder than damnit and was in the middle of a freezing rain storm, man I sure am impatient. lol
Lucky you! There is no chance in hell that on person will be able to pick up my bumper and winch together. I have to first remove my winch if I have to take the bumper off.
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So you guys running the 3" haven't upgraded CA's yet? I'm looking to get the 3" coils and 5100s. If any of you have the 3", 1.25 BL and 33's could you post pics?!
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That was the same I found with my vibration. After balancing it went away. I agree that it handles great on and off road. I love it. I have 33's and feel it is a great mix with the 3" lift. I have not had any rubbing or hitting the fenders offroad. Just make sure your wheels have correct backspacing.
What width tire are you running and are you using stock wheel or aftermarket?

I was thinking a 285/75r16 tire on the stock Rubicon wheel and a 1" spacer would be enough to clear inner fender area.
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So you guys running the 3" haven't upgraded CA's yet? I'm looking to get the 3" coils and 5100s. If any of you have the 3", 1.25 BL and 33's could you post pics?!

I have stock control arms for now and a 3 inch lift, and 1 inch body and MML. I have pics in my garage, and some flexing.
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Lucky you! There is no chance in hell that on person will be able to pick up my bumper and winch together. I have to first remove my winch if I have to take the bumper off.

Eh, I dead lift 500 pounds so my 200ish winch and bumper is a breeze.


I reckon 6 day a week workouts pay for something....lol
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I only used their springs as I had my own ideas as to who made better components for the rest of the lift . My only regret is that I used the 3" springs in the rear. They give you more than 3" and from what I have seen from the pics people have posted that used their 2" springs in the rear looked much better .
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Eh, I dead lift 500 pounds so my 200ish winch and bumper is a breeze.

I reckon 6 day a week workouts pay for something....lol
I drink beer 6 days a week...
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What width tire are you running and are you using stock wheel or aftermarket?

I was thinking a 285/75r16 tire on the stock Rubicon wheel and a 1" spacer would be enough to clear inner fender area.
I have 33 x 12.5 x 15 on Cragar Series 342 Black "D" Window 15x8wheels. I have no problems rubbing and have taken it offroad several times.

I too am running stock Control Arms. So far no problems as suggested in several other posts. Not saying I will never have a twisted CA, but in 3 outings since the lift, I have had no issues with the suspension. I am not doing over aggressive rock climbing, desert racing at 50+ mph and am more on the safe side and always try and protect my equipment.
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Eh, I dead lift 500 pounds so my 200ish winch and bumper is a breeze.


I reckon 6 day a week workouts pay for something....lol
Hope you are around when I get stuck, need a tire changed or just need a "lift". Don't mess with NCBEAR!
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So you guys running the 3" haven't upgraded CA's yet? I'm looking to get the 3" coils and 5100s. If any of you have the 3", 1.25 BL and 33's could you post pics?!

I don't have the Body Lift but I do have the 3" Lift with 33x12x15 MTR Baja's. Here is a pick right after the lift and tires were put on with the Cragar wheels. I also have stock Control Arms as I said in above post. 3 trips to the mountains of NC and back and so far, still in "control".
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Have the Bds 3 " and Romen control arms, savvy HD steering and my lift is ok. It was good for the first 10000 miles but now the spring are making. Noises . The shocks are still good but pretty beat up. I run 35's now and I wheel it in rocks and mud so it's truly used. I will soon get new shocks and later on new currie springs.

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Hope you are around when I get stuck, need a tire changed or just need a "lift". Don't mess with NCBEAR!

Ha... I'll help you out... Well, if your changing a tire I'll hold the flashlight, and walk ya through it.
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Rolf, that was funny on the drinking beer 6 days a week lol
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Who has the best prices on BDS lifts? I can only find them on a few sites. Morris, offroadunlimited, 4x4connection all have the 2" for $390. Can anyone beat that.
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Good price. I bought my springs direct and used a forum discount for another 10% off. Also had springs shipped to nearby vendor to save on freight.
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2in kit, only a few hundred miles on it. I love it. But I do have a rake. I've got a soft top, and a 40lb bumper, 25lb winch plate and 90lb winch. I'm sure it would be less with a hard top. I'm going to install 3/4in spacers up front.

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