Can Walmart Duplicate My 05 Ignition Key? - Jeep Wrangler Forum
Jeep Wrangler Forum

Go Back   Jeep Wrangler Forum > TJ Jeep Wrangler Forum > TJ General Discussion Forum

Join Wrangler Forum Today


Reply
 
Thread Tools

Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about them on WranglerForum.com
Old 08-15-2013, 08:57 PM   #1
Jeeper
 
ford-willy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: California
Posts: 121
Can Walmart Duplicate My 05 Ignition Key?

Was in Walmart automotive section and they sell chipped keys and have a machine/computer that will program them. I was not driving the Jeep that trip.

When I recently bought my new 05 Unlimited the seller only had one key. will the Walmart unit program a new key for my 05?

__________________
2005 LJ Unlimited, Black Tie Edition
"Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the blood stream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children's children what it was once like in the United States when men were free."
Ronald Reagan
ford-willy is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 08-15-2013, 10:00 PM   #2
Jeeper
 
Majnoon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Springfield Missouri
Posts: 2,862
I think they can. Looked like it from the sign. Seen it getting tires on the wife's truck. Bet Walmart can answer better than me. Ask them the next time your there. I have had outstanding service at there tire shops in 2 city's. hate they crush mom and pops but thank god they smash the stealership!

Majnoon is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 08-15-2013, 10:05 PM   #3
KMG 365

WF Supporting Member
 
Sccafire's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: 92 miles from the Rubicon Trail
Posts: 710
I would try and see if they do. Take your registration and or something with the vin number and your name on it. I would hope they would want that so people just cant go in and get chipped keys made and then steal vehicles.
__________________
Scott
Sccafire is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 08-15-2013, 10:06 PM   #4
Jeeper
 
OkieOutlaw's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Marietta, Oklahoma
Posts: 105
Images: 3
They cut one for my 06 X. It is just a plain jane old key though. Not even the cheap plastic covering the head on this one. Woulda been cool for the ole lady to have an original JEEP key but hell it works.
__________________
"A Veteran - whether active duty, retired, national guard or reserve is someone who, at one point in their life, signed a blank check made payable to "The United States of America", for an amount of "up to and including my life." That is Honor, and there are way too many people in this country who no longer understand it.
OkieOutlaw is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 08-16-2013, 08:08 PM   #5
Jeeper
 
ford-willy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: California
Posts: 121
Went back to my local walmart today. They said they were waiting for a technician to show up with the most recent update to the system. Could not say if update would handle my 05 till it is installed.
__________________
2005 LJ Unlimited, Black Tie Edition
"Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the blood stream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children's children what it was once like in the United States when men were free."
Ronald Reagan
ford-willy is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 08-16-2013, 08:13 PM   #6
Jeeper
 
Join Date: May 2013
Location: Long island
Posts: 61
they did my 04
Travis64 is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 08-16-2013, 08:17 PM   #7
Jeeper
 
horsedad58's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Riverview Fl
Posts: 212
I actually got a chip key for my 05 at Lowe's! Seems the newer key machines actually copy both the cut and the e-code in the chip. So the receiver in the column doesn't even know it's a new key.
__________________
Thanks,

Horsedad58
Horse: the original off road rig.
Jeep: just as fun and no stall to muck.
horsedad58 is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 08-16-2013, 09:41 PM   #8
Jeeper
 
ford-willy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: California
Posts: 121
Quote:
Originally Posted by horsedad58 View Post
I actually got a chip key for my 05 at Lowe's! Seems the newer key machines actually copy both the cut and the e-code in the chip. So the receiver in the column doesn't even know it's a new key.
Wow thanks. I'll try Lowes also.
__________________
2005 LJ Unlimited, Black Tie Edition
"Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the blood stream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children's children what it was once like in the United States when men were free."
Ronald Reagan
ford-willy is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 08-16-2013, 10:31 PM   #9
Sponsoring Vendor

WF Supporting Member
 
Black Magic Brakes's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 1,819
Quote:
Originally Posted by ford-willy View Post
Was in Walmart automotive section and they sell chipped keys and have a machine/computer that will program them. I was not driving the Jeep that trip.

When I recently bought my new 05 Unlimited the seller only had one key. will the Walmart unit program a new key for my 05?
The SKIM will support up to 8 keys which means it accepts 8 different coded keys. There is some debate as to how the copies are done and it's strongly believed that it is a clone and not a uniquely coded key.

That means little in the short term but it supposedly will not allow you the luxury of using a pair of distinctly coded keys to program the 3rd-8th using the SKIM in the vehicle like you could if it were not a clone.
__________________
I am Savvy, I am the brake Wizard.
http://blackmagicbrakes.com
Black Magic Brakes is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 09-04-2013, 04:32 PM   #10
Jeeper
 
ford-willy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: California
Posts: 121
OK-----I went to Lowes. Wow it was great. Ten minutes and 71 dollars (less than half of what Chrysler Dealer wanted) and the key worked great and still does. I just brought in my one stock key and they did not actually need to go to the car. Showed my current registration was all.

They had a list of key numbers for year and model. The key for my 05 was -------"Brand" Transponderkeys, Chrysler Y160-EK

Lowes said their system clones the transponder code.
__________________
2005 LJ Unlimited, Black Tie Edition
"Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the blood stream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children's children what it was once like in the United States when men were free."
Ronald Reagan
ford-willy is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 09-04-2013, 09:14 PM   #11
Supporting Member

WF Supporting Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Under my Jeep in beautiful upstate N.Y.
Posts: 2,820
I dont think Id trust walmart to cut a key for my lawn tractor
1jeeplvr is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 09-04-2013, 09:40 PM   #12
Jeeper
 
eboven's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Black Hawk, CO
Posts: 641
Quote:
Originally Posted by Black Magic Brakes View Post
The SKIM will support up to 8 keys which means it accepts 8 different coded keys. There is some debate as to how the copies are done and it's strongly believed that it is a clone and not a uniquely coded key.

That means little in the short term but it supposedly will not allow you the luxury of using a pair of distinctly coded keys to program the 3rd-8th using the SKIM in the vehicle like you could if it were not a clone.
Correct, the keys that Lowe's or Wal-Mart will be a cloned copy of the key you give them, meaning that as far as the SKIM is concerned, you only have one key. Only the dealership can give you an actual second key that has it's own code programmed to the SKIM, no one else would spend the money needed on the scan tool and all it's updates, it is a ridiculously expensive tool.

Once you have two keys with different codes programmed to the SKIM, you can easily make your own copies and program them to your vehicle's SKIM yourself; just buy a blank chipped key ($30-40) and have a hardware store cut it for a couple bucks. Then, you can take your two keys and perform a sequence to program your new one, giving it it's own unique code to the SKIM. Now, if you loose a key, you can replace it for $30 or $40 bucks instead of having to go to Lowe's or Wal-Mart and having them clone another for $80. Well worth it if you have a Jeep with the immobilizer system, IMO.
eboven is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 09-04-2013, 09:51 PM   #13
Jeeper
 
ford-willy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: California
Posts: 121
Quote:
Originally Posted by eboven View Post
Correct, the keys that Lowe's or Wal-Mart will be a cloned copy of the key you give them, meaning that as far as the SKIM is concerned, you only have one key. Only the dealership can give you an actual second key that has it's own code programmed to the SKIM, no one else would spend the money needed on the scan tool and all it's updates, it is a ridiculously expensive tool.

Once you have two keys with different codes programmed to the SKIM, you can easily make your own copies and program them to your vehicle's SKIM yourself; just buy a blank chipped key ($30-40) and have a hardware store cut it for a couple bucks. Then, you can take your two keys and perform a sequence to program your new one, giving it it's own unique code to the SKIM. Now, if you loose a key, you can replace it for $30 or $40 bucks instead of having to go to Lowe's or Wal-Mart and having them clone another for $80. Well worth it if you have a Jeep with the immobilizer system, IMO.

Yes----What I am doing is to use my new cloned key as my everyday key. if it gets lost I still have the original to clone another.
__________________
2005 LJ Unlimited, Black Tie Edition
"Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the blood stream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children's children what it was once like in the United States when men were free."
Ronald Reagan
ford-willy is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 09-04-2013, 10:09 PM   #14
Jeeper
 
eboven's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Black Hawk, CO
Posts: 641
Quote:
Originally Posted by ford-willy View Post

Yes----What I am doing is to use my new cloned key as my everyday key. if it gets lost I still have the original to clone another.
That's not quite what I meant. Now that you have a cloned key, you will always pay at least $80 for a replacement. If you had payed a bit more upfront and had the dealer program a uniquely coded key once, you would be able to program a third key for cheap yourself. As long as you always have 2, you would never have to pay someone to program another, so you would really be saving money if you loose your keys more than once.
__________________
My Build Thread
eboven is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 09-05-2013, 08:21 AM   #15
Commercial Member

WF Supporting Member
 
justin-branam's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: NW Houston, Texas
Posts: 194
If you aren't a worrying type, you can take one of the original keys, pull the cover around the ignition cylinder off, and epoxy a programmed key in there close to the cylinder. Put everything back together and you can use a cheap $3 copied key to start your jeep. It is great if you lose keys often. Get an extra one and zip tie it somewhere hidden under your hood, and hide another one somewhere in the vehicle.

I have a few friends with random types of vehicles who have actually cut the microchip out of the head of the key and epoxied that onto the ignition cylinder, but I would rather just leave the key intact. In a last ditch effort, I could always tear into the cover and pry the key off if I needed to. Do realize though, that someone could potentially break your cylinder and start your Jeep without a key.
justin-branam is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 09-05-2013, 11:02 AM   #16
Sponsoring Vendor

WF Supporting Member
 
Black Magic Brakes's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 1,819
Quote:
Originally Posted by justin-branam View Post
If you aren't a worrying type, you can take one of the original keys, pull the cover around the ignition cylinder off, and epoxy a programmed key in there close to the cylinder. Put everything back together and you can use a cheap $3 copied key to start your jeep. It is great if you lose keys often. Get an extra one and zip tie it somewhere hidden under your hood, and hide another one somewhere in the vehicle.

I have a few friends with random types of vehicles who have actually cut the microchip out of the head of the key and epoxied that onto the ignition cylinder, but I would rather just leave the key intact. In a last ditch effort, I could always tear into the cover and pry the key off if I needed to. Do realize though, that someone could potentially break your cylinder and start your Jeep without a key.
Short of a thief with a tow truck, the SKIM will defeat just about anyone else with evil intent and watching the heartbreak of a few poor souls who have had their rigs stolen, a few bucks for the right key is very cheap insurance. My strongly held personal opinion after having idiots try to take our 04 and being defeated by the SKIM feature is only a fool would bypass it.
__________________
I am Savvy, I am the brake Wizard.
http://blackmagicbrakes.com
Black Magic Brakes is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 09-05-2013, 07:28 PM   #17
Jeeper
 
JBats0673's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Southern California
Posts: 21
I'm lost. I have an '05 TJ and I was at a hardware store where they make keys. I only have my original key and asked if they could cut me a new one. He found the correct blank from the key manual and cut me a new key that works great. Cost me $2.99 and now I have a spare. What am I missing???
JBats0673 is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 09-05-2013, 08:28 PM   #18
Supporting Member

WF Supporting Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Under my Jeep in beautiful upstate N.Y.
Posts: 2,820
Quote:
Originally Posted by JBats0673 View Post
I'm lost. I have an '05 TJ and I was at a hardware store where they make keys. I only have my original key and asked if they could cut me a new one. He found the correct blank from the key manual and cut me a new key that works great. Cost me $2.99 and now I have a spare. What am I missing???
Possibly the op has immobilizer?
1jeeplvr is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 09-05-2013, 10:45 PM   #19
Sponsoring Vendor

WF Supporting Member
 
Black Magic Brakes's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 1,819
Quote:
Originally Posted by JBats0673 View Post
I'm lost. I have an '05 TJ and I was at a hardware store where they make keys. I only have my original key and asked if they could cut me a new one. He found the correct blank from the key manual and cut me a new key that works great. Cost me $2.99 and now I have a spare. What am I missing???
OEM black keys are non SKIM, OEM gray oval shaped keys have a chip in them for the SKIM system. One is cheap, one is not.
__________________
I am Savvy, I am the brake Wizard.
http://blackmagicbrakes.com
Black Magic Brakes is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 09-06-2013, 10:33 AM   #20
Jeeper
 
JBats0673's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Southern California
Posts: 21
Thanks guys, those explanations make sense. I've been driving a year and a half with one key, so at least now I have a working spare that only cost me $3. Can't complain too much about that.......

JBats0673 is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the Jeep Wrangler Forum forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
User Name:
If you do not want to register, fill this field only and the name will be used as user name for your post.
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
Email Address:

Log-in

Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.



Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



» Rates
Get low rates on auto insurance in Canada!

» Network Links
»Jeep Parts
» Featured Product

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:07 AM.



Jeep®, Wrangler, Liberty, Wagoneer, Cherokee, and Grand Cherokee are copyrighted and trademarked to Chrysler Motors LLC.
Wranglerforum.com is not in any way associated with the Chrysler Motors LLC