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Old 03-16-2014, 07:54 PM   #1
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I removed the 1/2" nuts from the full door hinge pins. I've sprayed PB Blaster onto the door hinges, and in between the hinges. I have no idea how long these doors have been on the jeep, or for that matter, if they have EVER been off of this jeep. I do not have access to a floor jack. What is the best way you have found to remove the full doors? With the 1/2" nuts loosen, but still attached, I have tried tapping on those nuts with a hammer, hoping to loosen up the doors. But that didn't help, either.

With a door open, and perpendicular to the jeep, I try rocking the door (lifting & lowering), hoping to loosen it up.

Still no good.

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Upwards pressure from bottom of door close to hinge side as you open and close the door. It will go up a tad as you swing it open and closed as long as you got upward pressure on it.

Edit. Don't close it all the way. It won't go once door starts to raise. Just back and forth.

Edit 2 you don't need a jack if it was that bad the door wouldn't open. Physics tells me the hinge didn't shrink and the bolt didn't grow new nuts.

Key is to put pressure going up under hinges as you swing. If your lifting at edge of door like where it latches your putting this pressure / on hinges. You want this I (the shape not me.) have your hand at bottom of door hinge side pulling up as you open/close with other hand.

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This is merely a suggestion but you could utilize the jack in your jeep. Setup wood blocking between the jack and the bottom of the door. But pay attention to the blocking at the bottom of the door so that you don't bend anything. Jack it up slowly and let it sit. Maybe even tap on the door pins a bit and see if you can get them to break loose.
Just go slow and take your time..
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Just happened to me and made a thread (doors of virginity) there's some tips on there , but I'd use a jack and piece of wood jack it up till the suspension raises a bit and has constant pressure , let it sit for a couple minutes and then wiggle the door side to side just a bit while the jack is still applying pressure. You should see the door raise up just a bit then keep wiggling but be ready mine almost flew outta my hands once it's ready !
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Upwards pressure from bottom of door close to hinge side as you open and close the door. It will go up a tad as you swing it open and closed as long as you got upward pressure on it. Edit. Don't close it all the way. It won't go once door starts to raise. Just back and forth. Edit 2 you don't need a jack if it was that bad the door wouldn't open. Physics tells me the hinge didn't shrink and the bolt didn't grow new nuts. Key is to put pressure going up under hinges as you swing...
Majnoon - I followed your advice. After a little bit of moaning (from me, not the door), they starting to lift. Thanks. No jack needed, just a little bit of elbow grease. Speaking of grease, should I put anything into the hinge before I throw my 1/2 doors on?

White lithium, etc. like another member suggested?
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Ya that would be good, sorry didn't quote white lithium would be good.
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Old 03-16-2014, 11:28 PM   #7
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Everything went fine, until I put the soft uppers onto the 1/2 doors.

The uppers went into the slots, but when I tried to close the 1/2 doors, the doors didn't want to close, without a fight.

I know the 1/2 doors are from a TJ.
How would I know if the seller sold me uppers for maybe a YJ?
Or, maybe the framework for the uppers is from a YJ, with the fabric being from a TJ.

How can you tell the difference?
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Your going to have to loosen your lower body side hinge mount and adjust the door so that it fits. No two jeep doors fit the same they allways need a little tweak here and there also you might have to adjust the latch on the door jamb...
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... you might have to adjust the latch on the door jamb...
Yeah, you're right about that.
Shutting my full doors, I could slowly close them, and they'd latch, nice & easy.

These half doors, I have to shut them kinda forcefully. (Not too hard, though.)
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Your going to have to loosen your lower body side hinge mount and adjust the door so that it fits...
Why ONLY the LOWER body side hinge mount?
Does the UPPER body side hinge mount ever need to be adjusted?
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It really can't move cause its part of the windshield hinge... If you need even more adjustment you could loosen the hinges on the door it's self
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... If you need even more adjustment ...
I haven't tried to make any adjustments yet.
I was just wondering why all of the adjustments would be made from the bottom hinge.

I'll adjust the doors tonight.
Hopefully, the uppers will line up properly.
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Old 03-17-2014, 02:42 PM   #13
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My wife still doesn't understand why I would want my FULL doors & keep a set of HALF doors.

This is Houston ...
Just wait until it's the middle of the summer, 10 o'clock at night, & it's still around 90 degrees ....
We'll take a little drive, get some of that nice warm breeze with the half doors on. I think she'll come around.
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She'll come around !! My wife gets kinda freaked out by going doorless but also really likes it.... It's wierd..
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Uppers need to be bent to fit I think. Not the hinges. Only do it if it seems feasible. I'm going of the top if my head and years of being around jeeps. Never had soft uppers. Messing with the hinge will mess with the whole door.

Got this from best tops site. Expand both our minds.

My 2-Piece Soft Doors are not fitting in the door opening properly, what should I do to fix this?
It is common that your 2-Piece Soft Doors may take a bit of adjustment to fit properly. With the door open, place your hands on the top of the soft door and pull downward towards the vehicle. Do not worry about breaking the doors as Bestop doors are produced using heavy-duty tubular steel. Adjust as needed. Also, Bestop offers adjustments on the pivot pins to assist with a better overall fit.
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Your post is confusing too. I'm thinking it through Slater off. The "maybe the uppers are from a YJ" made me focus on uppers. If the lowers are the problem no clue.
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Let's see some pics of the uppers on the doors. By the looks of quadratecs web site there is some difference in the two but not a lot. Most of the difference is where the back edge meets the body and top
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... If the lowers are the problem no clue.
The lowers (the half doors) fit fine now. I adjusted one of the strikers.

The problem now is just the uppers.
You can feel the door jamb getting tight when the door is a few inches away from being completely closed. But, this is only with the uppers on them.

I may have to bend the uppers into place, like was mentioned earlier by another member.

Pictures to follow shortly.
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Ya bend them. Some times it goes the other way. They leak bad and need to be bent in.

Edit that was me that said to bend them. Think I'm alone on this if someone else wants to chime in that owns some.
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No your right. They sometimes need a tweak here and there to fit right and seal
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Let's see some pics of the uppers on the doors. ...
1st pic - You can see how much the upper sticks out after the door is shut;
2nd pic - Looks like the fabric might not be set right on the frame;
3rd pic - Again, maybe the fabric isn't right, & you can see the metal frame protruding;
4th pic - You can see the same metal frame protruding.


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... By the looks of quadratecs web site there is some difference in the two but not a lot. Most of the difference is where the back edge meets the body and top
It would be just my luck that I would end up with TJ lowers & YJ uppers.
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Yeah unfortunately those look like YJ uppers.
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Yeah unfortunately those look like YJ uppers.
My dad had a YJ a while back and his uppers did look just like that.
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Yeah unfortunately those look like YJ uppers.
That figures.
YJ upper frame, fabric, or both?

Even though they do seem to follow the curvature of the hardtop, it does seem that the uppers are a little wider (from front to rear) than they should be.

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