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Old 12-18-2012, 06:03 PM   #31
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Jerry, then what antenna do you recommend for a wrangler and where is the best mounting point area?
I will have two Wranglers as of Friday, my daily driver is a 03 TJ with a soft top. We will be picking up our family driver Friday which will be a 2013 Rubicon unlimited. It will have a 3 piece removable hard top. I think that I will just install a CB in both.

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I think I'm going to install a 3' Firestick above the passenger tail light. Anyone done it, and have any advice?

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I think I'm going to install a 3' Firestick above the passenger tail light. Anyone done it, and have any advice?
I did this with the Teraflex mount. Easy install, have to drill one hole through the tub and replace the existing 3 bolts with longer ones. Or run them all the way through the tub and put nuts on the other side for more stability. I didn't do this myself and it's doing fine so far. On the mount I used I dremeled away the powder coat on the under side of the mount and the paint on the inside of the tub for grounding purposes. I put mine on the drivers side which already has wires coming up in to the tub. Made it easy to enter and follow them along the inside of the tub and up under the dash with antenna cable.

I barely make it in the garage with the setup. On my Jeep the top of the antenna is just shy of 7' at 83".

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I currently have a 3' Firestick on a home made mount above the tail light, slightly lower than the mount shown above (but no radio yet). I'm strongly considering a 2' though as mine *just* clears the garage door, and it does hit tree branches. A 2' will put it below roof line, but I'm hoping it'll perform satisfactorily since the top isn't metal.


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Jerry, then what antenna do you recommend for a wrangler and where is the best mounting point area?
I will have two Wranglers as of Friday, my daily driver is a 03 TJ with a soft top. We will be picking up our family driver Friday which will be a 2013 Rubicon unlimited. It will have a 3 piece removable hard top. I think that I will just install a CB in both.
Probably the easiest to install mount is from TeraFlex - Upgrade your Jeep | TeraFlex Suspensions which is a strong solid mount.

The only thing you must keep in mind is Tera's mount has a heavy black anodizing all over it and you MUST grind a small circle of the anodizing away from where the antenna mount's bottom lock washer & nut seat against it so the antenna mount gets its required electrical ground. You must also grind the paint & powder coating away from between where the mount is against the tub so it can complete its electrical ground connection for the antenna. If you don't, the antenna won't work properly & you won't be able to tune it properly.

Antenna-wise, I'd go for either a 2' FS-2 or 3' FS-3 Firestick antenna. I run a 2' to keep it from banging into garage doors and parking garage roofs. Surprisingly, that 2' works great off-road & I noted no difference in performance or ability to talk with large offroad groups after going from a 4' to a 3' to a 2'.
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I noted no difference in performance or ability to talk with large offroad groups after going from a 4' to a 3' to a 2'.
That's what I wanted to hear...
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I have the cobra and love it. I must have good hearing because it's plenty loud for me. Plus you can plug in an external speaker. Spend your money on the antenna. All the radios are 4 watt by law.
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I have the cobra and love it. I must have good hearing because it's plenty loud for me.
Big noisy tires & no top will change your mind about that.
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That radio is totally illegal for use here in the U.S.
It is set up to only use channel 1 thru 40 and as long as I don't push more then 4 watts it is perfectly legal.
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Big noisy tires & no top will change your mind about that.
No doubt about that Jerry.
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I did this with the Teraflex mount.
That's exactly the mount I was thinking about....thanks..
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Probably the easiest to install mount is from TeraFlex - Upgrade your Jeep | TeraFlex Suspensions which is a strong solid mount.

The only thing you must keep in mind is Tera's mount has a heavy black anodizing all over it and you MUST grind a small circle of the anodizing away from where the antenna mount's bottom lock washer & nut seat against it so the antenna mount gets its required electrical ground. You must also grind the paint & powder coating away from between where the mount is against the tub so it can complete its electrical ground connection for the antenna. If you don't, the antenna won't work properly & you won't be able to tune it properly.

Antenna-wise, I'd go for either a 2' FS-2 or 3' FS-3 Firestick antenna. I run a 2' to keep it from banging into garage doors and parking garage roofs. Surprisingly, that 2' works great off-road & I noted no difference in performance or ability to talk with large offroad groups after going from a 4' to a 3' to a 2'.
I will go with the mount and 2 ft firestick that you recommended on both of my Wranglers and yes I do understand the grounding need.
Thank you Jerry!!!
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I went with the same mount, but went with a no ground plane antenna and coax so I don't have to worry about grinding of some of the powder coating to make a good ground. It's working pretty good so far.
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I went with the same mount, but went with a no ground plane antenna and coax so I don't have to worry about grinding of some of the powder coating to make a good ground. It's working pretty good so far
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At best, no ground plane antennas are better than nothing... but just barely. They are a VERY bad choice of antenna for anything besides something like an all fiberglass boat. Your CB would work a lot (!) better with a conventional ground plane antenna. Afterall, the Jeep tub & chassis combine to make an excellent ground plane for a conventional antenna & you should take advantage of it. A little grinding of a very small amount of powder coating from the mount won't ruin it.
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With the mount above the rear tail light do you have issues with the antenna hitting your top?
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for anything besides something like an all fiberglass boat
Yeah.....Not sure I understand why you'd use a no ground plane antenna on a vehicle with a ground plane..
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I know mine will tap my top but I'm running 4' 5/8 wave FS My Galaxy 949 likes it better then a shorter ant. But it's not that bad. I chose an 11 meter made radio by a mainly 10 meter made radio company do too is abilty for better/cleaner audio output and better ability to carry it. I have many years of all makers of radios so I'm bias on what I would us. But as Said by others ANT, ANT, ANT is your main concern and tuned correctly 1.5 or lower SWR's from 1-40 is key.
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With the mount above the rear tail light do you have issues with the antenna hitting your top?
Not with any of the Firestick antennas I have used which include my current FS-2, or the previous FS-2 and FS-4. There are some "whippy" antennas like Wilson makes that can.
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Big noisy tires & no top will change your mind about that.
works great for me, top or no top, and big noisy tires.
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FWIW, weather band is mandatory for me as well. I left the radio in my CJ when I sold it as it was bigger than I wanted to mount in the TJ. I'm considering this one. I wish it had a forward firing speaker, but that makes the chassis too wide. I'll install a remote speaker.

Newegg.com - MIDLAND 1001LWX Full Featured CB Radio with Weather Scan Technology

That's what I'm running, it seems to work good but the speaker is not at all loud and clear, I'm planning on mixing the audio out into my main amp. Great price and size though
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I like my Midland 75-822. It has a battery pack if I want to go portable, otherwise I plug it into the cigarette lighter and attach it to my 3' firestik. I can take it off so no one steals it too. I have plenty of range, and if I need to go further then that's what Ham radio is for.
I just picked up the Midland 75-822 and was wondering if you selected the 3' Firestik because it's the best match (swr) or some other consideration? I was thinking of purchasing the 4, or 5 foot antenna, thinking this would increase my range. What do you think?
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For trail use, even a 2' antenna (which won't get hung up on the trail) works fine. As my TJ got taller & my antenna mount location got raised up, I went from a 4' to a 3' to my current 2' and surprisingly, I never noticed any performance differences in my offroad uses of CB. I can easily communicate several miles to even large groups of Jeeps with my 2' Firestick antenna mounted just above one of my tail lights.
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Thats great thing about the newer FS they are 5/8 wave with helps big time in send and recieve over a 1/4 or 1/2 wave. Also us an ext speaker for better recieve audio. I have a really small one that is real clear for it's size. I can't read the name anymore but I believe it's called a loud mouth?
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Thanks guys, lolls like can order the 2' with confidence.
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[QUOTE=quadman14;3130390]Thats great thing about the newer FS they are 5/8 QUOTE]

That really is not new as my firesticks from 30 years ago were also 5/8 wave.

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Hey, what do you guys think of the Cobra 19 Ultra III??? Got it for Christmas. I know Cobra is a pretty good brand but i've never had a small one...had a Cobra 29 Night Vision back in the day but have been wanting to put one in the jeep....
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Hey, what do you guys think of the Cobra 19 Ultra III??? Got it for Christmas. I know Cobra is a pretty good brand but i've never had a small one...had a Cobra 29 Night Vision back in the day but have been wanting to put one in the jeep....
It's probably fine, although it doesn't appear to have RF gain, which I prefer to have.
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At best, no ground plane antennas are better than nothing... but just barely. They are a VERY bad choice of antenna for anything besides something like an all fiberglass boat. Your CB would work a lot (!) better with a conventional ground plane antenna. Afterall, the Jeep tub & chassis combine to make an excellent ground plane for a conventional antenna & you should take advantage of it. A little grinding of a very small amount of powder coating from the mount won't ruin it.
Jerry... I ordered and regular antenna, stud and coax today. Want my radio to work the best it can. Thanks for the info. And I'm going to grind on my mount to make sure it gets a good ground.
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I just bought a new rig and it has a powder /coated tire mount with c/b mount. I'm getting engine noise. Could the powder coating be the problem or does the antenna need a filter due to electronic ignition.
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Engine noise is usually caused by having installed non-resistor spark plugs or aftermarket "low-resistance" ignition wiring. Does your TJ have either?

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