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Old 07-13-2010, 07:51 AM   #1
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Changin Oil...What kind ,how much?

Ok, so I've had my Jeep for well over a year now. I've taken it too the local garage for oil changes, but now I wanna start doing my general maintenance on my own. (Mainly because I just bought this bad-a air compressor so now I feel like I can do anything)

What NON-SYN oil recommendations do you guys/gals have and also can someone give me a capacity. I have an 04 6 Cyl.


And BTW, I did a search to see if anyone posted this already and couldn't come up with anything so thanks for your help and troubles

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Old 07-13-2010, 07:52 AM   #2
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Oh, and just so no one gets scared, I don't plan on using the air compressor to change my oil....It just makes me feel special

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Old 07-13-2010, 07:53 AM   #3
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check you manual.
I use Havoline 10W30, 6 quarts.


I think the manual calls out for 5W30, I could be wrong about that.
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Manual? HA, I bought her used, they wouldn't even order me one!
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Just some advice, I try and change mine every 3 months or 3 thousand miles. I change the oil filter every time also. when I buy a new oil filter, I tear the top off the box (has part number on it) and write down the date and mileage on it. I then store that in my glove box. So, now I have a record of when I did it and also I can walk into the store and get that same oil filter without having to remember or look it up. when you go to buy an oil filter, take it out of the box and examine it. Make sure it is the correct one because they can switch them. Learned that the hard way. Also, make sure it doesn't have any metal flakes in it from where they machined it. don't worry about getting the most expensive one, just an elcheapo will do if you change your oil on time. I was using the higher priced ones and those are the ones that were putting the wrong oil filter in the wrong box and had metal shavings falling out of it. I try and get one with a sure grip on it.
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someone else posted a link for downloading manuals.

Try this:

Chrysler Canada Inc. - Chrysler Jeep Dodge Owners - Owner/Service Manuals
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Oh, and just so no one gets scared, I don't plan on using the air compressor to change my oil....It just makes me feel special
damn it I was getting excited. I thought you'd run an air hose into the hole the filter screws in, then blow all the oil out of the engine and pan in about 3 seconds

if it's not Mobil-1 synthetic, I like Mobil 5000.
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For non-synthetic oil...I prefer good old Valvoline 10w30 (6 quarts). I'm currently trying out Schaeffer Oil 5w30 full synthetic and I also switched from Mopar filters to Wix (which are supposed to be the best...and they're also $1 cheaper than the Mopar ones here).
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Old 07-13-2010, 10:32 AM   #9
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I like Rotella 15/40 in mine good oil pressure good protection but my rig has almost 140000 on it so it may be a little thick on yours. Wix filters sold at Napa and the o'reilys Kragen chain stores.
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Old 07-13-2010, 10:38 AM   #10
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Thanks everyone for all the helpful info!
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Old 07-13-2010, 10:59 AM   #11
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I add an extra 1/2 qt when I do my oil changes. I do mine at about 500-1000 miles, but it is 99.9% wheeling miles. Dust, water, dirt and rocks.
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someone else posted a link for downloading manuals.

Try this:

Chrysler Canada Inc. - Chrysler Jeep Dodge Owners - Owner/Service Manuals
Thanks for referencing that site. I downloaded the Owner Manual from there for a 2004 (non available there for my 2003 to download) a year or so back and have used it a lot to look up info both for myself and for responding to Posts on this Forum. It's in .pdf format and is very searchable, therefore easier to use than my hard copy.

From the 2004 Owner Manual, for the 4.0L, 10W-30 is the preferred oil to be used above 0F. 5W-30 can be used from 32F downward. Being a 10W-30 fan, I use mostly 10W-30, may go to 5W-30 for January & February. Interesting enough, the 4.0L V6, used in the newer Dodge Grand Caravans, calls for 10W-30 for all seasons, no options given other than 10W-30 synthetic. There must be something about "flowability" additives in the conventional oils that we don't know about.

As for filters, I go for oversize filters such as Fram Tough Guard TG-8A or the Mopar filter specified for Fords to use in place of the Ford FL-1A. Mopar filters in Canada are white, made by WIX (black and by Purolator in the US). The Canadian Mopar # for the oversize filter is 0FE00148. If I weren't getting the Mopars for $2.75 "trade price" (lists at $4.95), I would go for the Fram Tough Guard at $8.00. The Fram is a superior filter with a silicone (versus nitrile) anti drainback valve and a high efficiency filter media (over 99% efficient).

Another thing I like about Fram is that they tell you about their filters, including efficiency per ISO standard tests, whereas most others keep you guessing. Been a little interested in oil filters and have cut Mopars, WIXs, Ford FL-1As and Fram TGs apart to examine their inards.

As to oil, I just bought 4 - 5L jugs of Quaker State 10W-30 to add to my stash which includes a jug of Valvoline 10W-30 and a jug of Pennzoil 10W-30. The Quaker State was on sale at WalMart for $10.88, pretty hard to beat that price. It had the API label on it including the Starburst symbol. If you are looking at "High Mileage" oil, you may not see the starburst symbol.

Quantity is per your Owner Manual, 5 quarts or 6 quarts, 6 being for the six cylinder engine, 5 for the four cylinder engine. I add a little more when using the oversize filter.
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Thanks for finally asking, i have looked all over the forum for info on oil changes. I also bought mine used and it has no manual so wasnt exactly sure on how many qts to put into her lol anyways thanks everyone for the good info

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