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Old 12-27-2007, 11:23 PM   #1
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I have heard both sides of this argument but my question lies a little deeper. If the chip actually does improve performance or gas mileage, why wouldn't Jeep just tweek the engine in production to have the same output as being "chipped"? Is there a government regulation that restricts this. Emissions?? I just can't see why Jeep wouldn't make their engines better if a chip can do it. Also, does a chip actually damage your engine?

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Old 12-27-2007, 11:52 PM   #2
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cheap chips wont do much if anything, but if u put out $300-800 you can squeeze out up to 20% for power with the hardcore setting, and 5mpg on the fuel save setting. the reason i can think of is that they pick a setting between power and fuel econemy, the programmers just let you pick. if in the city pick fuel saver, if off road pick hard core. the cheap chips will only have 1 setting.

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Old 12-27-2007, 11:54 PM   #3
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BTW you opened a can of worms on this thread.
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Old 12-28-2007, 12:17 AM   #4
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BTW you opened a can of worms on this thread.
2x, now we get to hear how bad electronics are...

Hmm i'm trying to find something my self for boost.. like a piggy back..
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Old 12-28-2007, 12:24 AM   #5
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I don't know crap about chips but I know the programmers are great for making more adjustment.
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Old 12-28-2007, 06:10 AM   #6
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im selling a JET stage 1 chip in the for sale forum...
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Old 12-28-2007, 01:52 PM   #7
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im selling a JET stage 1 chip in the for sale forum...
how much? i want it
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Old 12-28-2007, 04:49 PM   #8
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AEM Standalone ECM.... and a laptop... thats the answer
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Old 12-28-2007, 07:18 PM   #9
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AEM Standalone ECM.... and a laptop... thats the answer
can you link it?
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Old 12-29-2007, 04:22 PM   #10
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you should, otherwise there is no reason for the laptop..

when i was in the market for a turbo kit for my miata, those guys "flyin miata" used standalone for their turbo kit.. pretty much you control the charts with your laptop of how much fuel it adds according to boost, rpm, and all those things.. The best of all is they make more and better maps that you can download and replace the data for better performance and stuff.

The only downside is, a standalone is about 1k
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Old 12-29-2007, 04:26 PM   #11
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In my opinion the only way thats worth it is to get a programer and reprogram the computer. Chips arn't worth it.
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Old 12-29-2007, 04:27 PM   #12
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thats what a chip does man (unless you buy one of those 5 buck resistor craps on ebay), it reprograms it and some chips even increase the realtime updates of the cpu so it reacts faster to changes.
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Old 12-29-2007, 04:40 PM   #13
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my bad I read it fast and thought he was tslking about one of those stuipid things that change the resistance and trick the computer to dump more fuel in. Those things are junk.
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Those things are junk.
They work in the same principal as "cold air".. they read the air coming in as colder than it really is and they fool the computer into dumping more fuel into the chamber.. thats good when adding a cold air intake or something that forces a bit more air in there so the computer will add a bit more fuel.
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Old 12-29-2007, 05:07 PM   #15
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Ya but you don't need to trick the computer into adding more fuel with a new intake or cold air intake. The computer will read the change with the maf and other intake sensors and add more fuel to maintain the proper air/fuel ratio. I only talking about a natural aspirated engine not a FI engine thats alot different.
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how much? i want it
its for the 4.0L it wont work with yer 4 banger...

but $186.00 shipped ConUS (there $309 new)
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The computer will read the change with the maf and other intake sensors and add more fuel to maintain the proper air/fuel ratio.
I allways thought the same thing and thats what the maf is for but the folks around here are saying adding more air such as a cold air intake or a snorkel will only lean everything out and by the folks i'm talking about people that say they know their stuff (i wont mention any names but the popular people here on the forum)

Vector what can you do w/ that chip?
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Old 12-29-2007, 05:16 PM   #18
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I thought it would keep adding more fuel to a certain point then you need to change things.
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Old 12-29-2007, 05:19 PM   #19
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yep i thought and still think the same thing too. The last time i said that they started flaming me..
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Vector what can you do w/ that chip?
all im doin is selling it.. it was on my friends jeep we returned to stock to sell.

http://www.wranglerforum.com/sale/je...-wv-14343.html

http://www.jetchip.com/products.asp?...&model=356#356

JET Performance Dodge Module

The JET Performance Module for Dodge, Chrysler and Jeep vehicles is a JET exclusive. Dynamic Spectrum Tuning provides power gains across the entire power band-not just at full throttle. Point by point air/fuel ratio, ignition advance and various other tuning points provide performance gains of up to 25 horsepower. Improves throttle response, acceleration and low end torque. Simple, plug-in installation in less than 30 minutes. Available in Stage 1 and Stage 2.

*For 1989-Current Dodge cars, trucks and SUV's.

Stage 1-For stock or mildly modified vehicles. Fuel and timing curves are modified for optimal performance and mileage using less expensive, lower octane fuels. Programming is designed to burn fuel at peak efficiency, which results in improved performance and mileage. Daily drivers can use lower cost regular fuel for potential mileage gains, but for optimal performance gains use of mid-grade or better is recommended.

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