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Old 05-20-2012, 11:24 AM   #31
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x2...whether your rig is mudding or rock crawling, if your junk doesn't work at full bump & full flex, the problems are the same.
X2!!! That's it.... you are on point! Perfectly stated.....

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Old 05-21-2012, 05:01 PM   #32
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Looks great!!!! you have done a great job on your Jeep!!!
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Do me a favor.....

Put your Jeep up that ramp until you pull that left rear tire off the ground by about an inch or so....that will be full flex..... then take pics at the stuffed corners.. I am curious....
I drove up as far as it would go until the left rear tire was spinning and I stopped. But even if I had lockers (which will be coming eventually) it would not have flexed any more up in those corners than that since the bump stops were hitting already. If I was locked and had gone further up the ramp it would only have showed me how much additional droop I could get. Unless I'm missing something?

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You can put 40s on a TJ with no lift and no cutting. I'll prove it with an example:



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Old 05-21-2012, 07:23 PM   #34
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Old 05-21-2012, 07:39 PM   #35
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You can put 40s on a TJ with no lift and no cutting. I'll prove it with an example:



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LMAO!!! ok.... I deserve that..... hahaha!!!
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I drove up as far as it would go until the left rear tire was spinning and I stopped. But even if I had lockers (which will be coming eventually) it would not have flexed any more up in those corners than that since the bump stops were hitting already. If I was locked and had gone further up the ramp it would only have showed me how much additional droop I could get. Unless I'm missing something?
Thanks.... I was just curious. Looks like you won't rub then...since your bumpstops were already touching.
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Looks like you won't rub then...since your bumpstops were already touching.
when people say "my bumpstops are touching" or something to that effect, I always want to question the depth of that comment. Is the jounce bumper touching? is the bumpstop cup touching?

If the jounce bumper is touching...so what? That will fully compress into the cup and doesn't count...theres still another 1.75" there.
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when people say "my bumpstops are touching" or something to that effect, I always want to question the depth of that comment. Is the jounce bumper touching? is the bumpstop cup touching?

If the jounce bumper is touching...so what? That will fully compress into the cup and doesn't count...theres still another 1.75" there.
Here's a pic. So you are saying that if I was able to go up the ramp higher that I would have rubbed since it would have compressed more? Okay...then I learned something new. Thanks, I guess I will have to extend the bump stops then.

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Here's a pic. So you are saying that if I was able to go up the ramp higher that I would have rubbed since it would have compressed more? Okay...then I learned something new. Thanks, I guess I will have to extend the bump stops then.
Ramps suck. Waste of steel IMHO.

I'm not saying you could have "ramped" higher at all. I'm saying the jounce bumper can and will compress into the bumpstop cup. It's designed to do that.

You could have a different major clearance problem in the front. Your shocks may be the limiting factor, they could be bottoming out. I don't know. Set the bumpstops to prevent major interferences & shocks bottoming out, then set for tire size last. It's your jeep, it's your job to figure all that out. There's plenty of links and educational info on all that.
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Here's a pic. So you are saying that if I was able to go up the ramp higher that I would have rubbed since it would have compressed more? Okay...then I learned something new. Thanks, I guess I will have to extend the bump stops then.
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I'm running a 1" bl on 4.oL front springs and 2.5L rear springs. I used 4.oL front springs to level out the jeep from the winch/stinger weight.

here is my jeep on a 36" tall rti ramp.
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here its sits flat on the ground. I run 33x10.5 cut and sipped TSL's on stock wheels no rubbing.
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You also have flat fenders... Makes a big difference.
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You also have flat fenders... Makes a big difference.
look closer...not just flat fenders, but highlined.
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What the hell is hanging from your sliders?
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Ramps suck. Waste of steel IMHO.

I'm not saying you could have "ramped" higher at all. I'm saying the jounce bumper can and will compress into the bumpstop cup. It's designed to do that.

You could have a different major clearance problem in the front. Your shocks may be the limiting factor, they could be bottoming out. I don't know. Set the bumpstops to prevent major interferences & shocks bottoming out, then set for tire size last. It's your jeep, it's your job to figure all that out. There's plenty of links and educational info on all that.
Thanks again.
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Old 05-22-2012, 07:24 PM   #47
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look closer...not just flat fenders, but highlined.

good eye... I missed that.....
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What the hell is hanging from your sliders?
looks like a chain step....
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oh maybe, lol. I couldn't make out the step. Just a dangling chain.
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it is a chain step, only the bottom is welded solid so they swing outta the way on the trails.
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I'm running 33s with a zone 3" lift.. I don't rub and I have the front sway bar disconnected at the moment.
Are those pro-comp 7069? I just purchased a 3" zone suspension lift and new pro-comp matte black wheels with 33s. Just started the job and looking forward to the finished product. Your TJ looks sweet, hoping mine comes out as good!
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Does anyone know how much of a wheel spacer i would need to run 10.5" tires on stock rims
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Sry correction 12.5 tires!
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Does anyone know how much of a wheel spacer i would need to run 10.5" tires on stock rims
we don't know what stock rims you have now...what is their sizing and backspacing?

you need a 15x8 or 15x10 wheel (most prefer 15x8), and you want ~3.50-4.25" of backspacing. it's up to you to figure out how to get there.
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Thanks ill do the measuring and che k it out
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Does anyone know how much of a wheel spacer i would need to run 10.5" tires on stock rims
To run a 10.5" you shouldn't need any wheel spacer o a stock wheel, you will need to add spacers to your steering so at full turn you won't chew your tires up on your lower CAs and sway bar(if you run one). But to run a 12.5" Tire you will need to have a BS and I don't know what that is. I think its something like 4.25" or 4.5" on a 10" wide wheel. Don't quote me on that tho.

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