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Old 07-25-2011, 10:04 PM   #1
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Question Clutch went--rattling marbles sound--what happened?

Clutch went out in the middle of the woods on my 2001 TJ with 170k miles. First I had a "rubbing/squeaking" sound only when the clutch was half-way in. Now that I have no clutch at all, I have a "loose marbles" sound all of the time, in and out of gear. If I do press in the clutch in neutral, the noise gets really loud and bogs the engine.

Exactly what could have broken or flown apart in there to cause this?

Had a new engine put in back in March and was told the clutch looked good as new.

Also, will I need more than just what comes with a clutch kit since I crippled her about 20 miles home with this clattering noise? I hope that didn't mess anything else up too badly!

(And of course every traffic light turned red while I was driving home with no clutch!)

Thanks!

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Old 07-25-2011, 10:28 PM   #2
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Throwout bearing maybe?

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Old 07-25-2011, 10:39 PM   #3
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If you still have engagement with the clutch I would presume you grenaded the throwout bearing.

A full clutch replacement kit is just what you need to get everything you need. They are not that $$$$ and you can get a Luk kit for around $160 or so.

Here you go....

New LuK Dodge/Jeep Clutch Kit, 05-065

Shop around you should be able to get it a bit cheaper.
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Old 07-25-2011, 11:38 PM   #4
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Yep sounds like the throwout bearing.
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Old 07-26-2011, 09:02 AM   #5
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Wow this brings back memories of when my T.O. bearing decided to explode.

My TJ was the worst clutch job I've ever done. Have fun. (take your time, and when you get angry, walk away for awhile.)
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Old 07-26-2011, 11:33 AM   #6
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Yea sounds like Throwout Bearing
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Old 07-29-2011, 06:36 PM   #7
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Thanks for the input on my first-ever post, everyone! Appreciate it! Hopefully I can return the favor on here someday.

Things took a turn for the worst, however. I put her in low-range so it was easier on the starter motor while turning around in my driveway and after going back into high range to start for the garage I have no freggin 2nd gear whatsoever!! I have every other gear but 2nd. All other gears are also impossible to get into but they're there.

There she sits 'til Monday. A day without my Jeep is like a day without sunshine. I really can't gripe, though. The ol' girl has been good to me. This is "par for the course" with this many miles. Thanks again!
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Before buying anything, or assuming anything, TAKE IT APART FIRST AND SEE!
It may just be something simple. Once you have it apart it'll be obvious what you need.
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Yep ^^^^ was just going to post the same.

Mite be as simple as just the throw out bearing. BUT change everything with a clutch kit...no point in changing the throwout only and then doing the rest of the clutch down the road. Drop it once and do it all.

Only positive way to identify what the issue is, is to drop the trans and take a look.
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Old 07-29-2011, 08:10 PM   #10
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Just me but with all of the work getting to the clutch and already having 175k miles on his Jeep, I'd still replace it cause if just a throwout bearing he would be repeating the process soon enough.
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Old 08-10-2011, 05:32 PM   #11
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Yepper. It was indeed the throw out bearing. It also caused the tube attached to the input shaft bearing cover that the throw out rides on to snap. This caused the slave cyl. to push out too far and pop. (Tranny fine, I have all my gears.) I opted to do the repairs myself and I give the overall experience an 8.6 on a PITA scale of 1 to 10.

I had a hard time finding the E12 reverse torx socket for those two @$!&* bolts at the top of the bell housing but finally found an entire set at Sears for $19. the bolts came out without a hitch. I removed the black cover from the hump and turned the ratchet/extensions from inside the Jeep.

The one recommendation I have for anyone who drops the tranny is to skip the part in the F.S.M. about removing the shift lever by inserting two M6 bolts. Stupid design, IMHO. It was soooo much easier just to pull the whole dang shift tower.

Thanks again for the advise and suggestions!

Cost of parts:

$150 for Precision clutch kit (clutch disk, pressure plate, throwout, pilot bearing, alignment tool) from Advanced Auto.

$62 for slave cylinder from Advanced Auto.

$101 and 3-day wait for input shaft bearing cover/tube only available from Stealership in my area.

$21 for clutch fork from Stealership.

Friend to help lower, raise, and jiggle transmission back in: PRICELESS!!
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Old 08-10-2011, 05:49 PM   #12
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I forgot to mention (maybe I am subconsciously trying to block this bad experience from my brain--ha ha) either go buy or beg to borrow a good slide hammer to get out that evil little wretched pilot bearing!! I unfortunately didn't have one and after trying every trick in the book resorted to some unorthodox hillbilly engineering.

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