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Old 10-16-2012, 05:24 PM   #1
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cobbled together lift.

When i got my 05 LJ back in February it had a cobbled together lift on it. When I got it on the interstate it was a white knuckle affair. Long story short the dealer I bought it from made it right and put all new stock supension back under it and I can go 80 MPH with one hand on the wheel now.

They gave me all the parts they took out. I did some research on what I had and found out what I think the main problem was they had a BB with a coil spring lift together. I found out you shouldnt do both or it will ride like crap.

So I want to lift it again but do it right. Here is a list of what I have.

1) Budget boost ,spring spacers and bump stop extensions.
2) coils for all four corners. They are grey is all I know. Not sure how much lift they give or what brand they are.
3) Adjustable track bar from Skyjacker .I dont know if its for front or back.
4) Longer sway bar end links. They look to be 4" longer than stock.
5) A bracket that I cant identify. Might be for the track bar that remained stock??

The shocks were toast so I would need new shocks. I know I could put the BB back in with my stock stuff but I think I would like to use the springs. Im not sure if I want to go 4" high. I would rather do 3". Im not saying Im against getting an all new kit like OME to do this right ,but I was thinking I could save some $$ and use some of what I have.

Any help would be awesome. I have been trying to figure out what I want to do for a long time. The stock look aint cuttin it for me.

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Old 10-16-2012, 05:33 PM   #2
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I would be tempted to just try the springs again. If it only sits 2" higher, then take it in for an alignment. Road test again it at 80mph.

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Old 10-16-2012, 05:40 PM   #3
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You'll know what the height difference is when you pull one of the stock springs and compare?
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Old 10-16-2012, 06:15 PM   #4
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The length of the spring is only half of the equation. It has to do with length and spring rate. Correct me if im wrong but just for instance a spring is 15" long and has a 170 lb/in spring rate will be less lift than a 15" with a 220 lb/in spring rate. The only real way to tell for sure is put them in or find a part#(probably not). Also if you do find a part number if used it could be saggy. Just throw them in its not very difficult espessially since it was recently taken off. Good luck bro
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Old 10-16-2012, 06:38 PM   #5
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I found out you shouldnt do both or it will ride like crap.
Please use some logic. Why does this make any sense whatsoever? I'm not fan of coil spacers but in terms of ride quality, spacers don't make one iota of difference. Your Jeep rode and drove like crap due to the low quality, junky parts that were under it. Luckily for you, you learned a valuable less that normally takes people years to learn--why are people in such a hurry to ruin a perfectly good stock suspension by installing lower-quality, poorly designed parts? I don't get it either.
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Old 10-17-2012, 08:31 AM   #6
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Please use some logic. Why does this make any sense whatsoever? I'm not fan of coil spacers but in terms of ride quality, spacers don't make one iota of difference. Your Jeep rode and drove like crap due to the low quality, junky parts that were under it. Luckily for you, you learned a valuable less that normally takes people years to learn--why are people in such a hurry to ruin a perfectly good stock suspension by installing lower-quality, poorly designed parts? I don't get it either.
I have read that you should never run a coil spacer lift with anything but stock springs. If I dont know the brand of parts that were on the jeep how do I know they were "junky"? This was all done by the previous owner that I never met so I dont see how I "learned a leason".
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My question still stands--how does that make any sense? Instead of believing everything you read, ask yourself why that matters. I'm not condoning the use of spacers and non-OEM springs but purely in terms of ride quality and being the devil's advocate for your statement of "you should never......", it's BS. The argument holds no weight and there's no reason running something like 2" BDS coils and a 1" coil spacer would hurt anything, given the bump stops and shock length were correct.

As for my junk comment, I'm making some assumptions, albeit good ones that are probably true. Gray coils lead me to believe they're ProComp. Junk. The track bar is Skyjacker, the kings of pumping out junk. I'm also betting you've got a dropped pitman arm installed and may or may not have a drop bracket for the front track bar frame mount. That track bar was probably allowing some movement, hence the white knuckle experience.
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My question still stands--how does that make any sense? Instead of believing everything you read, ask yourself why that matters. I'm not condoning the use of spacers and non-OEM springs but purely in terms of ride quality and being the devil's advocate for your statement of "you should never......", it's BS. The argument holds no weight and there's no reason running something like 2" BDS coils and a 1" coil spacer would hurt anything, given the bump stops and shock length were correct.

As for my junk comment, I'm making some assumptions, albeit good ones that are probably true. Gray coils lead me to believe they're ProComp. Junk. The track bar is Skyjacker, the kings of pumping out junk. I'm also betting you've got a dropped pitman arm installed and may or may not have a drop bracket for the front track bar frame mount. That track bar was probably allowing some movement, hence the white knuckle experience.
OP this is a little harsh perhaps but I think he has it spot on.
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My question still stands--how does that make any sense? Instead of believing everything you read, ask yourself why that matters. I'm not condoning the use of spacers and non-OEM springs but purely in terms of ride quality and being the devil's advocate for your statement of "you should never......", it's BS. The argument holds no weight and there's no reason running something like 2" BDS coils and a 1" coil spacer would hurt anything, given the bump stops and shock length were correct.

As for my junk comment, I'm making some assumptions, albeit good ones that are probably true. Gray coils lead me to believe they're ProComp. Junk. The track bar is Skyjacker, the kings of pumping out junk. I'm also betting you've got a dropped pitman arm installed and may or may not have a drop bracket for the front track bar frame mount. That track bar was probably allowing some movement, hence the white knuckle experience.
Thats what I was wondering. So the grey springs would be ProComp? I know Skyjacker is not the best. This has me thinking that I should start over with a good new kit so I know I have everything I need. Im not against waiting a year to afford a good kit.
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Thats what I was wondering. So the grey springs would be ProComp? I know Skyjacker is not the best. This has me thinking that I should start over with a good new kit so I know I have everything I need. Im not against waiting a year to afford a good kit.
I think this is your best option. Then you know what you have and dont have to worry about a concoction of parts under the Jeep.
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Old 10-17-2012, 11:20 AM   #11
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Grey Springs... at least from what I remember anyway.

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Old 10-17-2012, 01:27 PM   #12
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Grey Springs... at least from what I remember anyway.

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The BB was TerraFlex so it could be that the springs are too ,but who knows.

I might put just the BB back on for now ,and maybe do a 1.25" BL and a MML.

I forgot to add they had wheel spacers with stock wheels.
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If money is an issue and you still need to clear the tires (and you already have the BB) you could throw that back on and save up for a good lift kit.

As cliche as it is... when it comes to lift kits you truly do get what you pay for.

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