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Old 12-12-2011, 09:21 PM   #1
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Currently i am running a 98 wrangler 4 banger with 35 inch tires. i have a 2 inch body lift with 2 inch coil spacers and flat fenders. I was looking to lift the jeep higher (seems it can never be high enough) and a buddy of mine told me i can just get 3-4 inch suspension coils and shocks and thatll raise the jeep 3-4 inchs. Is this true? thanks John
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Old 12-12-2011, 10:02 PM   #2
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That would be correct. Thats all a suspension lift is for the most part until you get into control arms and other things. One thing to be careful of is what a kit includes. My 3 inch lift had coils, shocks, rear trackbar bracket, extended sway bar links (front and rear), and had to do a t-case drop for a while till I ordered my sye/cv which is something that depends on the jeep and future mods. Some can lift 3 inches with no issues. But I notice the kit you linked seems to have just coils and shocks and a rear trackbar bracket. not sure what the other bracket is.

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you still need lower control arms
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you still need lower control arms
For what?
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Old 12-13-2011, 07:43 AM   #5
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Currently i am running a 98 wrangler 4 banger with 35 inch tires. i have a 2 inch body lift with 2 inch coil spacers and flat fenders. I was looking to lift the jeep higher (seems it can never be high enough) and a buddy of mine told me i can just get 3-4 inch suspension coils and shocks and thatll raise the jeep 3-4 inchs. Is this true? thanks John
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no, what your buddy told you is NOT true. You'll need a lot more stuff.

Read here: I want to run 35's on my TJ - JeepForum.com
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Old 12-13-2011, 08:10 AM   #6
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no, what your buddy told you is NOT true. You'll need a lot more stuff.

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No his buddy was right all he said was that those coil springs would lift his jeep. The 35's are a different story.
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No his buddy was right all he said was that those coil springs would lift his jeep. The 35's are a different story.
His buddy was right it would physically lift his Jeep higher, but he wasn't right about anything else no matter what size tire you consider. If he gets 4" coils, what is going to do about the vibrations from the t-case? Is he going to do the stupid thing and drop the t-case or get an SYE and a new drive shaft to go along with it? If he does the SYE, he's then going to need adjustable control arms (which he probably needs either way), his brake lines may need to be extended, etc... Adding 35" tires on top of that only makes things worse.
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His buddy was right it would physically lift his Jeep higher, but he wasn't right about anything else no matter what size tire you consider. If he gets 4" coils, what is going to do about the vibrations from the t-case? Is he going to do the stupid thing and drop the t-case or get an SYE and a new drive shaft to go along with it? If he does the SYE, he's then going to need adjustable control arms (which he probably needs either way), his brake lines may need to be extended, etc... Adding 35" tires on top of that only makes things worse.
He linked a 3 inch lift. Which doesn't need longer brake lines or control arms. But I do agree he needs an sye/cv unless he does a bl/mml or the dreaded t-case drop lol
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No his buddy was right all he said was that those coil springs would lift his jeep. The 35's are a different story.
ok, you got me there. taller springs will indeed lift the Jeep, but I made the assumption the OP actually wanted his jeep to work & drive properly.

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He linked a 3 inch lift. Which doesn't need longer brake lines or control arms.
he may indeed need longer brake lines, we already covered this here: http://www.wranglerforum.com/f5/do-i...es-127145.html
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Yeah he linked that, but he specifically said 3-4 inch coils, which is why I'm looking at the max. And things like brake lines and control arms can definitely be needed with 3" of lift. Certainly not in every case, but there is a relatively new thread here about brake lines where Unlimited posted a few pics of a Jeep that only has a 2.5" lift that needed longer brake lines. Edit: see Unlimited's post above mine.

There are no rules like "you don't need X until you lift your Jeep X amount".
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Yeah he linked that, but he specifically said 3-4 inch coils, which is why I'm looking at the max. And things like brake lines and control arms can definitely be needed with 3" of lift. Certainly not in every case, but there is a relatively new thread here about brake lines where Unlimited posted a few pics of a Jeep that only has a 2.5" lift that needed longer brake lines. Edit: see Unlimited's post above mine.

There are no rules like "you don't need X until you lift your Jeep X amount".
I agree with there being no rules my jeep is lifted 3 inches and I needed sye/CV which is the reason I went 3 instead of 4 inches to avoid that but here I am. And I just assumed of he linked a 3 inch lift he wanted a 3 inch lift. but if he goes 4 yeah he needs control arms and brake lines and all the other fun stuff.
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Old 12-13-2011, 09:15 AM   #12
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ok, you got me there. taller springs will indeed lift the Jeep, but I made the assumption the OP actually wanted his jeep to work & drive properly.
If the lift kit is an unmarked Ebay lift I wasn't worried about how it drives lol
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Nice Kit...
What are performance lifted shocks lol

I would save up for a real lift kit
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What are performance lifted shocks lol

I would save up for a real lift kit
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I would save up for a real lift kit
then give these guys a call:
www.savvyoffroad.com

Add up all the costs, set a goal of what you want the Jeep to do and start saving.
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So since I'm only at about 2" over stock, I shouldn't have messed with my control arms?

Damnit.
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So since I'm only at about 2" over stock, I shouldn't have messed with my control arms?

Damnit.
Well duh, you didn't need that fancy SYE either since your under 3" of lift.
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Well shit, I've wasted so much money on useless parts that don't help anything.
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Old 12-13-2011, 02:18 PM   #19
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Well shit, I've wasted so much money on useless parts that don't help anything.
shhhh...people will believe you
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ok thanks guys now i already have a leveling kit on my jeep would i be able to run that with the taller coils. I want to avoid the sye problems tho thats why i was trying to stay under 3 inch lift.
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He linked a 3 inch lift. Which doesn't need longer brake lines or control arms. But I do agree he needs an sye/cv unless he does a bl/mml or the dreaded t-case drop lol
i already have a body lift (2 inches) so would i be ok?
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Looks like you're not sold on the cost of a functional suspension and that's ok, there is another option out there and that would be to highline your fenders...

However, understand that 35" tires will add stress and shorten the lifespan on your OEM components i.e. steering and brakes.

At the end of the day, 35's will breach you into a money pit.
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i am currently running 35's on my jeep just want a few more inches of clearence. i think ill go with a 4 inch suspension and do it the right way.
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