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Old 02-28-2012, 06:28 PM   #1
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Considering a TJ

I'm in the process of checking out/buying a 2005 wrangler X I6 6-speed manual. But, I have a lot of nay sayers (family members) saying that a jeep is the wrong way to go. I don't really care about that so much... but one of them brought up consumer reports gibberish, which apparently rates the 2005 as a lacking year for jeeps. Can anyone give me a yay or nay on this?

I'm absolutely in love with the jeep I found, but I don't want to buy myself into a money pit, especially considering this will be my first jeep.

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I have. Been driving wranglers as my 100 mile RT commuter vehicle for over 12 years. Won't drive anything else so do what's in your heart and don't listen to them. You will regret it later on.

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Jeeps are fun money pits mine has lasted me 186,000 miles and still going strong it was a 2000 though, haven't heard anything about a bad TJ just give her love and maint and she will love you back
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Jeeps are a lot like the old VW bugs.. Keep up with the maintenance, learn to fix it yourself, and it will run forever.. literally.. Consumer reports is garbage when it comes to automobiles. Jeeps get bad marks for ride, creature comforts, handling, etc etc.. I went through the same BS with my fatherinlaw. Bought mine new in 04' and have spent no money in any shops for repairs. I do all my own maintenance and repairs. My axle U-joints went out at around 50,000 miles, still under warranty with $100 deductible. I bought a bearing press, and heavy duty waterproof joints, pulled my axles, and did it myself, for about $100.. In less than 3 hours.. Including a brew break.. If you are mechanically inclined at all, and are willing to get your hands dirty on occasion, buy it. It is the easiest vehicle to work on
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Old 02-28-2012, 07:26 PM   #5
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BTW. My wife of 35 plus years hates my choice in vehicles but I do wear the pants once in a while. GO for it now before its too late!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 02-28-2012, 07:44 PM   #6
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Thanks for the quick replies/encouragement! I'm retiring my old GMC truck and I swear a wrangler is the only thing left on this earth that sits/rides anything like it. I've been looking for a wrangler non-stop for about 3 months now and actually spotted this one on my way to accept my beating and buy a mazda3 (bleh). I find out about the loan(for the jeep) in the morning, so I'm pretty stoked about it!

I've never been much of a wrench head unfortunately, but I'm hoping to learn/grow alongside my wrangler. There definitely seems to be a whole new world of parts and labor in store for me in the future.

On another note, as a new wrangler owner would there be any basic jeep stuff that I should know right from the start?
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I've had a 2001 TJ and now an 05 TJ. I loved the 01 and wish I never sold it, but needed a family car with my daughter being born. I waited 3 years and just got back into a jeep with the 05. I wouldn't trust consumer reports ratings on jeeps. Jeeps are like good beers, and acquired taste. You won't be disappointed with an 05. I wonder why they singled out the 05, there isn't that much difference b/t the 04 or 06s.

Wranglers also have one of the highest resale values. To the nay sayers, its a jeep thing, they just don't understand.
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BTW. My wife of 35 plus years hates my choice in vehicles but I do wear the pants once in a while. GO for it now before its too late!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This is actually one of my main problems, my future wife is not a fan of my decision at all! "My babies won't be getting in that!" she claims she won't even be getting in it. She's wants me to get a safe/mpg friendly car. But nothing I test drive feels like my truck or a wrangler does. I just feel at home in it.
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It wasn't just the 05... they just seemed to hate that one the most (just my luck haha)... they liked the 04's and 08's though. Everything else they told to kick rocks.
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Mazda 3 is a good gas car the wife has one but they are just that a good gas car, I always feel cramped on long drives. As far as jeeps go start with general maint ; learn to change the oil and normal stuff then go from there. Thats where I started,since then and with this forum I have added a lift, cooling system, head unit , master and slave clutch cylinder, you name it the guys on here know it! Welcome to a vehicle that will change your life. Ask any person on here if they would ever buy anything different. Btw get ready to be waved at
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One more thing the wifey may hate it but just put the kids in the back top down and take a warm summer night drive to the beach, they will reconsider
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With kids being mentioned... How safe are jeeps? Do they really roll easy?
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Never rolled mine knock on dash board, and I've put her through some tough stuff. Is the jeep you are looking at stock? If so just normal driving you should be fine. If it is lifted its a little getting used to.
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One thing to consider is the gas mileage. Mine gets 14-15 mpg. It's my DD, but if I have to make a trip of any length, I use my wife's minivan.
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With kids being mentioned... How safe are jeeps? Do they really roll easy?
Its the only vechile that comes with a full roll cage from the factory. Not to mention a fully boxed steel frame and the ability to add full steel bumpers. Will it roll easy, well that depends on what you do to it, a lifted jeep will roll easier than a stock one but a stock jeep is just as stable as any other small suv. I tell my wife all the time god forbid someone pull out in ftont of me because thay are going to have a really bad day, while all I'll have to do is touch up my bumper. A jeep is a lifestyle, a frame of mind if you will. I drive a jeep because it makes me happy' end of story. Just be aware that getting into jeeps is like getting hooked on crack, enough is never enough. My and most other members jeeps will never be DONE!!! There is always something I want ( bigger, better, stronger) you get the idea. But believe me the looks I get on a summer day cruisin around town no top no doors and my leg sticking out the door hole make me laugh everytime. It's a jeep thing and they don't understand.
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My daughter looks pretty dang happy!
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One thing to consider is the gas mileage. Mine gets 14-15 mpg. It's my DD, but if I have to make a trip of any length, I use my wife's minivan.
I can squeak 18 19 MPG by taking it easy. Gas is hurting me but that's my choice burning 18.00 a day with my commute of 100 Miles RT.

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Its the only vechile that comes with a full roll cage from the factory. Not to mention a fully boxed steel frame and the ability to add full steel bumpers. Will it roll easy, well that depends on what you do to it, a lifted jeep will roll easier than a stock one but a stock jeep is just as stable as any other small suv. I tell my wife all the time god forbid someone pull out in ftont of me because thay are going to have a really bad day, while all I'll have to do is touch up my bumper. A jeep is a lifestyle, a frame of mind if you will. I drive a jeep because it makes me happy' end of story. Just be aware that getting into jeeps is like getting hooked on crack, enough is never enough. My and most other members jeeps will never be DONE!!! There is always something I want ( bigger, better, stronger) you get the idea. But believe me the looks I get on a summer day cruisin around town no top no doors and my leg sticking out the door hole make me laugh everytime. It's a jeep thing and they don't understand.
X2!! Just remember, kids are only in car seats for a short while. My 11 year old son told me my Jeep is "way sick" and looks "totally Beast"! I have yet to tote around a kid of ANY age that didn't LOVE the ride, either front or back seat. As for the modifications, WOW!! You've just got to use your imagination, the sky's the limit! I sold my MG Midget convertible so I could buy a Jeep. Both are convertibles, BUT, I can use the Jeep all year round, and you can fit more than one person and a pair of sunglasses in a Jeep! (don't overlook "the wave" either)
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It's stock... although it has some weird toggle switch inside that i can't figure out what it does.
I only drive about 6-10 miles a day so hopefully gas will be alright.
Great points about the standard safety features!
I do think I want to raise it at least enough to put some bigger tires on it... and so it begins.
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It's stock... although it has some weird toggle switch inside that i can't figure out what it does.
I only drive about 6-10 miles a day so hopefully gas will be alright.
Great points about the standard safety features!
I do think I want to raise it at least enough to put some bigger tires on it... and so it begins.
4inch lift sounds like a good lift than, run 33's and with a 1.25inch bodily lift and re-gearing you can run 35s
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Hey, thanks! Now I just gotta get the girl feeling the same way! haha
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my wife hates mine. I sold a beautiful 03 Cadillac CTS to get it, and even pulled the idea that I would buy her the bug convertible she wanted out from under her when i decided on a jeep instead. BUT, she see's how happy I am in it and on a warm day with the top down, I catch her picking out her 'jeep' (i.e. suntan worthy) tank top and hat
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my wife hates mine. I sold a beautiful 03 Cadillac CTS to get it, and even pulled the idea that I would buy her the bug convertible she wanted out from under her when i decided on a jeep instead.
You sir, are suicidal. But, an inspiration none the less!
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This is actually one of my main problems, my future wife is not a fan of my decision at all! "My babies won't be getting in that!" she claims she won't even be getting in it. She's wants me to get a safe/mpg friendly car. But nothing I test drive feels like my truck or a wrangler does. I just feel at home in it.
My wife hated the wranglers she always said that thay were cheap on the interior side. Well that being said I bought one with out her even seeing. It and made s believer out of her so you have s chance lol
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With kids being mentioned... How safe are jeeps? Do they really roll easy?
I drive about 120,000 miles a year, all over the northeast, including the Canadian provinces.. I've seen more mini van/ cross overs, rolled over than anything else. Lots of front wheel drive sedans as well, and a big SUV here and there.. In the 30 plus years I've been doing this I have never seen a wrangler rolled over.. Front wheel drive is the reason,, ask any physicist, and they'll explain the causes much better than I can ..
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My wife hated the wranglers she always said that thay were cheap on the interior side. Well that being said I bought one with out her even seeing. It and made s believer out of her so you have s chance lol
Good for her,, they are NOT cheap on the inside, just BASIC,, my wife loves ours, and didn't like my soninlaws new 12' cause it was way too plush..
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Get the hell of WF and go buy your Jeep, then laugh at your family when there is a flood, big snow storm or hurricane and your out diving around having fun (in your Jeep) and there all stuck at home with there miserable faces on...
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You sir, are suicidal. But, an inspiration none the less!
I will pay one day I am sure...most likely it will be me having to drive her VW bug (if/when she gets one) by myself, and stopping at a stop light and having either a car load of girls laugh, or someone in a big wrangler laugh...either way I have a feeling I will be laughed at! If she finds a way to prop my dead body up in it....
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The bottom line is there is nothing like it. If you've driven one and loved it from the getgo the chances are slim that anything else will come close. I love mine to death. My wife loves riding in mine but prefers that I drive it, even though it is automatic and her Patriot is stick.

I have this silly grin on my face everytime I get into mine.

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