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Old 05-05-2013, 02:28 PM   #1
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Currie Steering

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CURRIE CE-9701 CURRECTLYNC® - HD TIE ROD SYSTEM versus the Ultimate Currie Steering Kit. Why would I want one of these over the other? I usually see mention of the CURRECTLYNC but never the other.

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Currie CurrectLync - 1 ¼" diameter forged alloy drag link, and 1 ¼" solid alloy steel tie rod bar that is bored and threaded on the ends. All 7/8" thread tie rod ends with boots are included as well as the Currie heavy duty steering stabilizer bracket. This unit is a direct replacement for the stock parts. No modifications or machining to any part of the vehicle is necessary. This unit is rated at 200% stronger than the stock component.

Ultimate Kit - Ultimate 4340 heat treated 1.25" solid Tie-Rod and Currie Draglink Complete Steering KIT- Replace your existing steering with the ultimate steering combination. The Currie Drag link and Savvy 4340 Heat treated Tie rod

Ultimate 4340 heat treated 1.25" solid Tie-Rod with a Currie draglink with new Tie-Rod Ends

This tie-rod brings a whole new level of performance and strength to the steering on your Jeep. These are so strong care must be taken not to destroy other suspension components. These are 4340 solid stock that is drilled and tapped for the ends. They are heated treated to allow the rod to bend and spring back.

People were reporting that the Currie Currectlync kit would bend and not spring back. The Ultimate kit springs back after deflection. I have the Ultimate Kit with Tie Rod Flip kit. It's high up and works great.
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Yeah, I have read the descriptions. Just wondering why I never hear anyone speak of the Ultimate and why anyone wouldn't choose it for only $30 more. Was thinking I'm missing something.
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the currie tie-rod is designed to bend in order to protect other parts of the steering system from failing.

the ultimate tie-rod will not bend, but you have to be careful how hard you hit it, there are other parts of the steering system that can't handle that much force.
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the ultimate tie-rod will not bend
Yes it will...
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X2, it will bend then spring back. I'm running one.
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X2, it will bend then spring back. I'm running one.
This.
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The below is quoted from Mrblaine (Blaine Johnson), developer of Savvy's Ultimate Tie Rod...

"Folks snivelled over bending Currie tie rods, so to shut them up, I made one you can't bend. Now here is the tricky part and I hesitate to try and explain it because yet again, the unknowing will take it the wrong way and try to make a case that resilience means weakness.

I brought the hardness up high enough that the tie rod is resilient and will not take a permenent bend. It does flex without bending or breaking but the forces required to flex it will put bends in other materials used in tie rods." (end of Blaine's quote)

The first photo shows Savvy's Ultimate Tie Rod with both tires off the ground. The second photo shows it after the Jeep was put back on the ground. It bends, then it straightens back out on its own. Very cool stuff... especially since I bent & straightened my previous Currie tie rod 5-6 times doing some very tough trails but have yet to faze my Currie Ultimate Tie Rod.
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Holy crap!! I may be seeing things but... Did you really support the weight of your jeep on that tie rod??
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Holy crap!! I may be seeing things but... Did you really support the weight of your jeep on that tie rod??
That isn't my Jeep, Blaine took that pic, but it was certainly supporting the entire weight of the front part of the Jeep. Don't try that with the factory tie rod though, it will bend permanently.
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That isn't my Jeep, Blaine took that pic, but sure. Coming down hard on the tie rod is a common reason for bent tie rods.

Don't try that with the factory tie rod though, it will bend permanently.
Definitely would NOT do that with the factory one!! Haha that's an awesome pic. A true testament to the quality of products that Currie puts out.
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Definitely would NOT do that with the factory one!! Haha that's an awesome pic. A true testament to the quality of products that Savvy puts out.
Corrected, that is a Savvy product.
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Corrected, that is a Savvy product.
Oops! My bad. Thanks!
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If you decide down the road you want the Ultimate tie rod it is $160.00 by itself vs $30.00 if you buy it up front in the kit. I run the Ultimate version.
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BTW, regardless which way you go buy it from Gerald at Savvy. He offers a 10% discount for WF members.
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I have the Currect-lync on my LJ. The tie rod is tough, I hit it a few times on rocks before bending it. I hit a rock in Big Bear with the tire and the force was great enough to bend the tie rod.. All it took was adjusting the drag link and checking the alignment and I was good to go.

Hard to see but the bend was just enough to throw the steering wheel off by a quarter turn.
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Thanks for all the feedback. Hope to order this week, probably go with the Ultimate Kit.
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The below is quoted from Mrblaine (Blaine Johnson), developer of Savvy's Ultimate Tie Rod...

"Folks snivelled over bending Currie tie rods, so to shut them up, I made one you can't bend. Now here is the tricky part and I hesitate to try and explain it because yet again, the unknowing will take it the wrong way and try to make a case that resilience means weakness.

I brought the hardness up high enough that the tie rod is resilient and will not take a permenent bend. It does flex without bending or breaking but the forces required to flex it will put bends in other materials used in tie rods." (end of Blaine's quote)

The first photo shows Savvy's Ultimate Tie Rod with both tires off the ground. The second photo shows it after the Jeep was put back on the ground. It bends, then it straightens back out on its own. Very cool stuff... especially since I bent & straightened my previous Currie tie rod 5-6 times doing some very tough trails but have yet to faze my Currie Ultimate Tie Rod.
Jerry,
The Tie rod ends in your pictures are above the mounting point (crown nut facing down). I have my tie rod ends mounted to the bottom with the crown nut facing up. Does it make a difference?
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The Tie rod ends in your pictures are above the mounting point (crown nut facing down). I have my tie rod ends mounted to the bottom with the crown nut facing up. Does it make a difference?
That tie rod is flipped for more clearance.
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Holy crap!! I may be seeing things but... Did you really support the weight of your jeep on that tie rod??
Yes I did, but to be fair, that isn't really a fair test. The rig is static, I went up sorta slow with the jack and the block of wood spreads out the pressure over a wider area on the tie rod. It does spring back quite nicely from the small bow that you see, but that is nowhere near the same as slamming into a rock at speed.
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X2, it will bend then spring back. I'm running one.
yeah... duh... that's in the product description, that was already posted.

I suppose I should have put that it will not bend "permanently" like the standard currie will (until you put it in a press and straighten it back out)

... I forgot this is the intardnet and one must be absolutely 100% perfectly crystal clear
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yeah... duh... that's in the product description, that was already posted.

I suppose I should have put that it will not bend "permanently" like the standard currie will (until you put it in a press and straighten it back out)

... I forgot this is the intardnet and one must be absolutely 100% perfectly crystal clear
Three people interpreted what you said the same way so of course the problem must have been with us and not with your wording. I certainly agree with you that what you wrote was not "absolutely 100% crystal clear".
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Does it make a difference?
yes. as said, the tie-rod in those pics is flipped. that means the stock taper has been drilled out of the knuckle, and a custom taper insert has been installed, allowing the new tie-rod to be "flipped", the tie-rod is installed basically "upside down". without the custom work to the knuckle, you cannot do this "flip".

there are also clearance issues you need to pay attention to. flipping the tie-rod brings it closer to smashing into stuff in the suspension. whether you flip the tie-rod or not, you always need to verify you're running enough lift and bumpstop extension to prevent clearance issues. you do this by cycling the axles with the springs & jounce bumpers removed.
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Three people interpreted what you said the same way so of course the problem must have been with us and not with your wording. I certainly agree with you that what you wrote was not "absolutely 100% crystal clear".
one would think people would read all of the posts in a thread.
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Not to Thread Steal but if you wanted to run the Currie Ultimate Kit and do the tie rod flip kit, would you have to modify other things? Track Bar Mounting Bracket, Stabilizer, Sway Bar Disconnect Brackets?

I'm planning on upgrading my steering and going to go with the Currie Currectalync or the Ultimate Kit. Just wondering if i should do any other steering upgrades like the tie rod flip kit along with it?
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Not to Thread Steal but if you wanted to run the Currie Ultimate Kit and do the tie rod flip kit, would you have to modify other things? Track Bar Mounting Bracket, Stabilizer, Sway Bar Disconnect Brackets?
yup. sway bar link mounts on the axle need to be relocated (cutting/welding). Savvy or mrblaine sells the kit.
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one would think people would read all of the posts in a thread.
So the answer to the question was posted, yet you felt the need to answer again but with something that wasn't correct or "crystal clear" and get pissy when you get called out on it.

Its the Internets fault.
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So the answer to the question was posted, yet you felt the need to answer again but with something that wasn't correct or "crystal clear" and get pissy when you get called out on it.

Its the Internets fault.
I'm not pissy.

its amusing to me the depths people will go to say "look at me, I know the answer and you are wrong and I'm the smartest ever!"

however, to be more to the point, I was responding more so to the question, "why wouldn't you spend the extra 30$ for the ultimate"

the answer is because the ultimate tie-rod will not absorb the shock of a hit like the currie one will. the currie unit is designed to be the failure point to save the rest of the steering components. things that are not as easily replaced. so if you haven't sufficiently upgraded the rest of your system, or don't plan to, the ultimate is not for you.

think of the ultimate tie-rod like a leaf spring. a good lea spring will not "bend". it will deflect some and return to its original shape. saying that a leaf spring bends is poor wording, just like saying the ultimate tie-rod "bends".
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So the answer to the question was posted, yet you felt the need to answer again but with something that wasn't correct or "crystal clear" and get pissy when you get called out on it.

Its the Internets fault.
You might as well used to it, I remember him and that attitude from a different forum.

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