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Old 11-25-2010, 11:36 AM   #1
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Daylighters vs. Apollo series lights? Pics?

Does anyone have any input on the Apollo series KC lights 55w versus the Daylighters 100w or 130w lights?

Are the 100w a big upgrade over the 55w Apollo's?

Anyone have pictures of both?

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55 watts is really not much more than a glorified head light or fog light. If you want a true driving light, you'll want more power than 55 watts which is the same as your high beams. In my own personal opinion, you can't beat KC lights... especially for their no-questions asked 23 year warranty that even covers the bulbs if they burn out.

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55 watts is really not much more than a glorified head light or fog light. If you want a true driving light, you'll want more power than 55 watts which is the same as your high beams. In my own personal opinion, you can't beat KC lights... especially for their no-questions asked 23 year warranty that even covers the bulbs if they burn out.
Thanks for the info.

Another question is this..

These are my options at the moment.

Hella FF700 kit, FF500 kit, or Daylighters 100/130w kit.

Is the extra 30-40 bucks worth going with the KC lights?

Are the 500/700FF's brighter then the Apollo's?
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To me, $30-40 extra to go with KC's first-class quality is always worth it. Never heard of Apollo, I wouldn't be surprised if it's a just store brand imported from China. Look at the wattage ratings to tell what is brighter, the more watts the brighter it will be. Only the far more expensive HID lights are bright with low wattage ratings.
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Old 11-25-2010, 12:49 PM   #5
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here is a pic of the 130 watt daylighters.. they seem very well made im very happy with them!!
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I've seen the Apollo's they seemed a bit on the cheep side if i remember... I'd shell out the extra cash for the KC's... I've had a few sets of cheep-o lights on my other rigs, and I've always regreted it in the long run...
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the amount of light put out by a light bulb is not directly related to the wattage. As a result, you can have two 55 watt light bulbs but one can be a lot brighter than the other.

So, what you want to do, us check what the Lumen's output is. The higher the Lumen the brighter the light.
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Old 11-25-2010, 01:37 PM   #8
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Thanks for all the info guys. Anyone have pictures at night of these setups?
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Is it legal to drive in the night with your headlights and driving lights all on? I've seen the mustang GT's and they have headlights along with driving lights in between them and they've had them all on. I just didn't know if having 4 headlights is legal or not.
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Driving on paved roads with driving lights is illegal in all 50 states, they are technically only for offroad use. I use mine on paved roads out in the boondocks one in a while when no traffic is around but I have them wired so the relay is only energized when I have the highbeams on. That way all I have to do is shut my high beams off with the turn signal stalk and my driving lights shut off too so I don't blind oncoming drivers.
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Where I live it's pretty common to see lots of Jeeps with the external lights. I don't think I will run into any Police problems with either the KC's or the Hella's.

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55 watts is really not much more than a glorified head light or fog light. If you want a true driving light, you'll want more power than 55 watts which is the same as your high beams. In my own personal opinion, you can't beat KC lights... especially for their no-questions asked 23 year warranty that even covers the bulbs if they burn out.
What do you think about lightforce?

They have colored lenses and are near indestructible.
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What do you think about lightforce?
Never heard of them, sorry. I'm pretty old-school and tend to only trust established names that earned their reputations over many years like KC.
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Lightforce is an up and coming brand from Australia. The do make some good products, and some are pricey, even more so than a basic set of KC's.

I have a pair of 100w Daylighters on my windshield and love them. They are WAY brighter than my highbeams. I really use them on the back roads when coming home from work so I spot the elk before them are in front of me. They've saved me more than once. But when ever I see headlights in the distance I just shut them off till they pass.
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Most states say you can have low beams and driving lights on, but if you turn on high beams, then the driving lights are supposed to go off (factory installed driving lights are usually wired this way), but you can usually get away with both high beams and driving lights on without hassle. Most 100 watt or brighter lights like kc's say for off road use only right on the packaging. Means, the cops see em on on the streets, it's a ticket!!

Some states even require lights above a certain height from the ground (like above windshield light bar, or roll bar) have covers on them to prevent them being used. They can ticket you for no covers but you have to be a real dick to them usually to get a ticket for it.
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Where do you guys, or gals, recommend ordering online?
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i got me the kc daylighters 100w and i love them
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Old 11-26-2010, 12:33 AM   #19
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Ktrom- do you have pictures at night from inside the jeep? Lowbeams and then low beams and KC's?

Thanks so much
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^ I can get ya one tomorrow night if no one else gets you one.
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id do it now but its raining pretty good outside, if its still dark when i wake up ill see what i can do, if not then tomorrow night for sure
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Thanks guys

I can't wait to see what they look like at night time from inside the jeep looking out.

I think it will be a nice upgrade over dim stock lights?
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Driving on paved roads with driving lights is illegal in all 50 states, they are technically only for offroad use. I use mine on paved roads out in the boondocks one in a while when no traffic is around but I have them wired so the relay is only energized when I have the highbeams on. That way all I have to do is shut my high beams off with the turn signal stalk and my driving lights shut off too so I don't blind oncoming drivers.
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If you are looking for price, Google the part. I'd bet Amazon probably has the lowest prices.
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Just checking in to see if any new pics were posted. Everyone have a great day.

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Jut checking in.

Thanks all.

Im excited about seeing some lights!
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Old 11-27-2010, 09:23 PM   #27
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Heres a JK with kc's on the front bumper and windshield.....



If you search youtube for, kc daylighters at night, there's a bunch of vids that you'll be able to get a really good sense of what they look and perform like.
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i vote go HID, you can get just about any light you like and upgrade them to HID for farily cheap. DDMtuning.com sells upgrade kits with lifetime warrenties.
heres my setup. HID headlights and IPF 968s with the DDM HID conversion
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Terrible cell phone pictures.

Low beam headlights...


KC 100watt on windshield...

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