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Old 10-04-2013, 06:52 PM   #1
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Deciding on axles (Ford 8.8 setup or D60)

So I've done a descent amount of research on axles and have come to the conclusion that I want one ton's in my Wrangler because of what I want to eventually do to it in the future (go bigger tires), but here's the issue, I'm only running 35's and don't quite have $12,000 laying around to put in Pro Rock 60's. With this being said I think 35's on Pro Rock's is overkill and will reduce my clearance a pretty good amount so I'm thinking to just put in stock 60's then when these tires wear out most likely late next year to throw on 38's, re-gear, put on trusses, sleeves, and etc.

Sound like a good plan or would I be better off building a solid rig (More skids, winch, rock rails, etc.) around 8.8's for now and then swap in D60's in a year when I can have enough to maybe put in some solidly built D60's when I go up to a bigger tire?

My profile is pretty well updated so check that for specs, but if you have any questions let me know - everythings pretty straight forward. In the end I realize I'm just a ticking time bomb at this point runnin front and rear locked up stock, non-modified dana axles on 35's....I haven't been able to go out at all recently just because I'm nervous about snappin an axle, that's no fun when you go out because all you can think about is breaking somethin, where's the fun in that?

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Old 10-04-2013, 07:05 PM   #2
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...I haven't been able to go out at all recently just because I'm nervous about snappin an axle, that's no fun when you go out because all you can think about is breaking somethin, where's the fun in that?
I thought THAT was the point! Go out and break something. Remember the Jeepers' motto - When you BREAK something, you don't REPLACE, you UPGRADE.

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Old 10-05-2013, 03:58 AM   #3
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Id say go straight to one tons. If you plan on going bigger then 37s in the future then why spend money on a 8.8 if you are going to go bigger later.

TNTcustoms sells axle trusses with Tj brackets for dana 60 axles, front and rear. Should help make the swap easier when it comes to brackets.

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Old 10-05-2013, 05:27 AM   #4
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I'm at the same cross-roads in my build. I'm not so much worried about breaking something, more of a be prepared for anything. I'm going with the 8.8 rear end. Compared to a Rock Jock it's a small investment with a lot of gain. You can find 8.8 everywhere and buy, build, and lock for about 1500-2000.00. Not to mention almost free disk brake conversion.
Replacing the wimpy Dana 30 in the front is a whole different matter. This is where I'm going to finally pony up and drop some money. Good luck finding a Dana 44 or 60 for a 100.00 in a junkyard. Anyway good-luck with your build and vertical horizon is right if you do break it up-graded it.
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I thought THAT was the point! Go out and break something. Remember the Jeepers' motto - When you BREAK something, you don't REPLACE, you UPGRADE.
Yeah thats true but not when it's your only means of transportation and don't have a lot of money to put into it haha
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After talking to my "off-road specialist" mechanic, or whatever you want to call them, he was suggesting me possibly thinking about a Ford 9" because not only are you going to get more clearance from the pumpkin on a 9" rather than a D60, there are more parts available and they weigh 400 lbs less. Then he suggested a D44 in the front.

Then just get them stock at first then when I decide to go up more to a 37" or 38", I can sleeve, truss, and do everything else to them at that point but a stock 9" and D44 are gonna be fine running the setup I have right now.

And like he said to me, this is a daily driver at the moment so if I was do drop D60's into the thing I'd be better off just buying a buggy, quite honestly it makes sense and with 37's or 38's theres not much you cant get over or by. And if you cant get over it, its gonna be a huge upgrade to stock my 4.0L and get everything else youd need to run bigger than 38's.

I also saw that a Ford 9" with 38's has as much pumpkin clearance as a D60 with 42's. Hence, less weight on a Ford 9" and the same clearance while saving money and added weight, sounds like the trade off I'm looking for....

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