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Old 12-20-2013, 09:12 PM   #211
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I am back. I just got a 2013 JK, so now my TJ is no longer my DD, which means I can really go after her with a BFH!

I never was able to get the upper, rear bolts free from my completely useless shocks. (They now hold zero charge and can move like a trombone slide. Useless. I am riding on springs.)

The front shocks do a nice job. They are gas charged, so they are bumpy on slow stuff, but once you get rolling they are pretty nice.

I plan to drill out the upper, rear bolts. (This will suck mightily.) When I snap off the heads and drill out the posts I hope to find that the welded frame nuts still have threads. If not I will have to break them out and replace them somehow. (I have no body lift, so if I have to do this I will not be pleased.)

I still have to grind down the lower sleeve on the two shocks. I took a stock black TJ shock off my dead SE and measured that part; there is a 1/8" difference. The stock measurement is 1 3/8" while the JK shock uses a 1 1/2" steel sleeve.

I want to use a Dremel or some heavier duty cutoff tool for this. The rod is glued in place so 1/16" must be hacked from each side. Seems more like a cutoff tool task than a grinder. So whatever.

I will try to do this during the week between Christmas and the new year. See y'all then...

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Old 02-03-2014, 10:07 PM   #212
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JkuR sus on my tj Rubi

My first post! Just bought an automatic 06 Rubi! Have been reading this and many other threads about this lift and have not seen anyone that has had any real problems. With that being said. To those who have done this swap what other things did you need to address, such as alignment/pitman arm, transfer case drop/sye kit, trac bar? Also could just the shocks be changed out and small spacers such as 1 or 2 inchers placed on original tj springs? I ask these questions not just out of curiosity, I have just purchased a set of shocks and springs from a 2014 jkur! And want to post my results for the group, any experienced help would be greatly appreciated.!

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I will have the numbers from the springs in the morning but the doner Rubi didn't have the tow package. This is my jeep and the cr list post I got the sus setup from. The wheels are still avail
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Old 02-04-2014, 02:02 PM   #214
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Just got hands on the springs 18/60. From reading this whole thread and more I've found this is going to take me too high also bar pins are still in the jkur shocks, will I need to replace them with the tj pins?. I only want 1 to 2.5 lift. And they came with 1.75 bb spacers. What do you guys think would be my best route.
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Old 02-05-2014, 11:25 AM   #215
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Personally looking to replace the 2" BB in the rear of my LJ. Looks like most have experience with the 59's, wondering if anyone has played with the 57 or 58? I run a hardtop in winter, soft in summer, so I am looking for an average of around 2". I have airbags in the rear, so I can adjust for the hardtop, towing, load, etc.
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ok after reading all of this I'm just confused here

So i would like to get to the 3" lift in theory when done.
I have a 97 Tj with the 2.5 automatic that is bone stock and need to do shocks anyway and if i am going to do this now is the time.

with a back injury the ride improvement would be welcome!!

but what parts do i need to find as take offs?

to gain lift. last thing i need or want is to go threw all of this to find i lose height.
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ok after reading all of this I'm just confused here

So i would like to get to the 3" lift in theory when done.
I have a 97 Tj with the 2.5 automatic that is bone stock and need to do shocks anyway and if i am going to do this now is the time.

with a back injury the ride improvement would be welcome!!

but what parts do i need to find as take offs?

to gain lift. last thing i need or want is to go threw all of this to find i lose height.
I did the 18/59 springs and a 2 inch spacer in the front (1999 4.0 Manual, soft top, no tow package) and I got about a 2 1/4ish lift in the front and about a 2 1/2 in the rear without a spacer, just on the springs. I'm sure you'll get more in the front with the 18 springs, but if you could find the 19 springs it should be a little bit more lift. With the jk shocks added as well it rides very nicely.
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Old 02-05-2014, 08:22 PM   #218
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RMSpiel , thanks for the reply! ill look for the 19 versions first
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Old 02-09-2014, 11:01 PM   #220
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2012 Jeep JK Rubicon Springs and Shocks

would these work?
if so i will call in the AM
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Old 02-10-2014, 01:53 AM   #221
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2012 Jeep JK Rubicon Springs and Shocks

would these work?
if so i will call in the AM
Find out what the spring rates on them are. Its the last 2 numbers on the tag. If the front is 18 or 19, go for it
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Find out what the spring rates on them are. Its the last 2 numbers on the tag. If the front is 18 or 19, go for it
ok ill call him, thank you

find out what the tags say
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Im interested to see how much lift you get in the front with your 4 angry squirrels. I have a I6 and got about 1/4 - 1/2 inch.
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Has anyone done this on a LJ. I found a set of 19/60 takeoffs and trying to decide if I should pick them up. Will they give me a couple inches of lift in the front?
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Has anyone done this on a LJ. I found a set of 19/60 takeoffs and trying to decide if I should pick them up. Will they give me a couple inches of lift in the front?
No. The LJ has the I6. *Might* get 1/2 inch in front. I didnt even get that.
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Thanks, that's kinda what I figured after reading through everything. I'd end up with little to no lift in the front with shocks that were too long. I'm just gonna hold out for that OME kit I've been eyeing.
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I just bought a Rubicon system, springs shock, trackbars etc from a 2009 JK Rubicon and plan on installing it in my 97 TJ sport. I know the with the front springs I need to swap the lower pins on the shocks and leave my 2" BB spacers in. And on the rear I need to widen the lower shock mount, and I think remove my 2" BB spacers. Does that sound about right? Any and all info would be appreciated. Thanks Sam
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Looks just like what I just bought. But I think the price is way high, maybe not in your area though. I just bought mine today and paid 70.00 for them including the control arms. But yes, that's what you need.
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I just bought a Rubicon system, springs shock, trackbars etc from a 2009 JK Rubicon and plan on installing it in my 97 TJ sport. I know the with the front springs I need to swap the lower pins on the shocks and leave my 2" BB spacers in. And on the rear I need to widen the lower shock mount, and I think remove my 2" BB spacers. Does that sound about right? Any and all info would be appreciated. Thanks Sam
You don't need to widen your rear shock mounts, just grind off a little from the bottom of the shock (on the sides) to make it fit, I wouldn't widen the mount itself just in case you ever want to go back to using tj shocks, but other than that you have the right idea
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I just bought a Rubicon system, springs shock, trackbars etc from a 2009 JK Rubicon and plan on installing it in my 97 TJ sport. I know the with the front springs I need to swap the lower pins on the shocks and leave my 2" BB spacers in. And on the rear I need to widen the lower shock mount, and I think remove my 2" BB spacers. Does that sound about right? Any and all info would be appreciated. Thanks Sam
Like the poster said above, grind the shock itself. Also on the front shock I didn't bother with trying to push out the bar pin in the old and swapping out the bushing. Picked up $25 Teraflex bar pin eliminators and ground the shock the same as I did to the back. It does move the lower mount up about an inch, so you may have to compensate for that.
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I just finished installing the JK front & rear springs and shocks in my son's 1999 TJ. I gained 3" front and rear. It rides better. It's firm and doesn't sway as much in turns or rapid lane changes. Total out of pocket for today's 3" lift kit is $90. (note: I sourced used parts from a local 4X4 shop that I work for)

-To make it fit I used TJ BPEs on the front lower mounts, ground the metal sleeves with the bench grinder.

-The front springs fell into place. I got 1" of spring lift and added 2" TeraFlex spacers. I used Daystar extended bumpstops in the front.

-I cut the rear spring, upper coil 1.5" from the end. This allowed it to fit around the upper bumpstop. I then used spacers to lower the rear bumpstop down 1.5 inches. The springs are variable rate and provided 3" of lift.

-Used a set of 2-6" quick discount swaybar endlinks.

I will be going with adjustable trackbars to recenter the axles under the Jp. I will be saving for JKS up/low, Fr/Rr control arms.
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I did the 18/59 springs and a 2 inch spacer in the front (1999 4.0 Manual, soft top, no tow package) and I got about a 2 1/4ish lift in the front and about a 2 1/2 in the rear without a spacer, just on the springs. I'm sure you'll get more in the front with the 18 springs, but if you could find the 19 springs it should be a little bit more lift. With the jk shocks added as well it rides very nicely.


Same setup as me but I have a 2000. I installed the springs and shocks this past weekend. All went well, lots of rusted bolts. For some strange reason I forgot to measure before I started the swap. So I'm not sure how much of a lift i have. But I definately need adjustable track bars.....and an allignment. I lowered the trans skid pan a lil over an inch to get rid of vibes (just temporary until I get a MML). This afternoon while getting gas a TJ Rubi pulls into the station. So I pull up next to him to see how my lift measures up. Come to find out he has a 2006 Rubi. We are the exact same heigth. I am sure someone with more experience that I can tell just how much of a lift I have....... face in palm........
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Rubis came from the factory the height as all other TJs, they just had 31" tires. So without knowing more about the other rig, we cant tell you how much lift you got.
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Well I have more info. I have 2 1/2" of lift over the stock configuration. I measured a friends stock 2002 TJ last night. He has 31" tires just like I do. So I think I'm pretty sure of my measurement. I should have my ATB's by the end of the week. I will update.
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Just to throw something else out there.
Do you think aftermarket JK springs would work also ?
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Finished last night, details in my previous posts. Bar pins were by far hardest part. Heat them up and push them out! 2.5 rear 1.5 front with spacer! Wtf! Not what I expected. I like the stance though looks good with my 245 75 mtr's too. Rides amazing with no driveline vibe or alignment issues. Will update as they settle and I'll add pictures tonight.
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Yes Brit, jk springs fronts are direct with little to no lift but ride great, rears require cutting off 1.5 on top to fit but will take you up 2 to 2.5 depending on the number springs you get. Gotta do your research, here and jeepforum have several threads. My suggestion is to use the jk shocks, prefer Rubi. With 2.5 after market springs like ome or rancho. Your pref. cheep lift rides great! .
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Also as a warning. The shocks are longer. after testing I found that the bump stops need to be extended at least 1.5 and if you want any travel at all you must use the springs, a bb, or aftermarket lift springs. I'd say up to 3.5 would work.
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I just bought today 18/59 springs, and a 2" leveling kit. Just looking for shocks now
Thanks everyone for all the great advise and input
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Would 14s and 57s make a difference on my stock tj. I can get some I just want to know if it will lift it at all.

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