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Old 05-16-2008, 05:40 PM   #1
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don't you watch mythbusters?? they tried all that. none of it worked

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I find it funny that they say "Water is supplemental to gasoline or diesel fuel"... when there are companies out there making millions off of products that take water out of gas and diesel.
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It's funny that a compound made up of 2 parts Hydrogen and 1 part Oxygen is actually used to PUT FIRES OUT..... when in their pure form are ignition accelerators.
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wow seems like the quesion is answered... I did see mythbusters, episode about gas, but did not recall this one.. maybe it uses a special mason jar.. eheheh geo metro here I go..
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i didn't read the one you're talking about, but mythbusters did do one where it is supposed to extract hydrogen from the water. and hydrogen is gonna be in the future for powering vehicles i think. but these forms of doing it were not practical

i actually saw a show about hydrogen cars, and you can plug your house into them at night, they have that much power. and they have test sites for hydrogen fueling, and they're doing this in illinois, or trying. obviously not on regular cars, and its kinda dangerous right now. something about how the hydrogen is transferred makes immense power.

the car on the show did 0-60 in 4-5 secs. and was completely quiet. twilight zone man.
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You know, mythbusters is great. But they've been wrong before. I might look on ebay and try to get one. Just to test it myself
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i didn't read the one you're talking about, but mythbusters did do one where it is supposed to extract hydrogen from the water. and hydrogen is gonna be in the future for powering vehicles i think. but these forms of doing it were not practical

i actually saw a show about hydrogen cars, and you can plug your house into them at night, they have that much power. and they have test sites for hydrogen fueling, and they're doing this in illinois, or trying. obviously not on regular cars, and its kinda dangerous right now. something about how the hydrogen is transferred makes immense power.

the car on the show did 0-60 in 4-5 secs. and was completely quiet. twilight zone man.
Actually Hydrogen internal combustion engines are very common place, Iceland is somewhere around 90% hydrogen powered motor vehicles, standard engines, special injectors and tank. The reason you may not see it is because you can make it at home from water. Don't laugh, I've lived with oxygen generators in the Navy, we would take sea water, run it thru a 5,000 gallon per day desalinization plant in AMR2 [Aux machine room 2 between the engine room and the reactor compartment, I served on submarines from 70-77], we would keep the oxygen, store it at 5,000psi and pump the hydrogen overboard. Most of the water though went into ships water for showers, drinking, etc. We used the oxygen to replenish the subs atmosphere. We have been doing it since the first nuclear subs went into service. Why do you think they can stay submerged for such long periods. The hydrogen 'byproduct' was dangerous and explosive and we would dump it as soon as possible, fires on submarines are very bad.
Last year Honda announced a hydrogen internal combustion civic with a hydrogen mounted wall unit that would refill the civics tank over nite, it was about the size of two scuba tanks and ran off 110V A/C. Then it disappeared off the advertisement screens. It was supposed to be on the market 9 months ago. BMW and Mercedes are both in the process of producing cars for Iceland that are hydrogen internal combustion powered, forget fuel cells that do the conversion to electric, too expensive to build yet but that is coming.
What I found interesting is that the governor of Montana, on National television, said that the coal to gas plants that are in his state can produce a barrel [42 gallons] of gasoline for $55 a barrel but that the feds have been throwing road blocks to prevent the plants from doing so and that they have enough coal to do so for the next 200 years. South Africa has been doing the coal to gas/diesel for over 20 years, in fact they produce 300,000 barrels [42 gallons per barrel] per day from their plants. As the governor said it's just a matter of how you line the valves up in the plant, line em up one way and you get LPG, line em up another and you get diesel, line em up another way and another process and you get gasoline out.
So South Africa is doing it, Montana says they can do it and the government says no you can't, that does not paint a very good picture as gas is going up every day in price, somebody is doing something and big business comes to mind.
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Looked at it more, that is a pyramid scheme type website. 5% chance it works
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richp that is some great info. something is going on, govt. wants us dependent. i do know hydrogen is dangerous, but other countries obviously are doing it safely. when asked about hydrogen being too dangerous, one man said "thats what they said about gasoline"
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Its definitely not inconceivable. Why not try it out?...Running an electric current through water creates hydrogen and as long as the engine can efficiently create a good current to hydrogen ratio, it in theory would work. The hydrogen is basically harmless, cause you're constantly burning it as opposed to storing it as hydrogen fuel cells require.

There's many sites out there with blueprints on how to make the stuff, and it doesn't look hard or costly.

I truly wouldn't be surprised if it works flawlessly. Big companies are out to make big bucks on ever last bit of oil they can get their hands on. Its no surprise gas prices are going up and all alternative vehicle technology having a hard time making its way into the country.

An mythbusters is a great show, but they're experimentation is flawed consistently.
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One thing about hydrogen, it burns hot as hell and clear so if anyone plays around, play safe. You wont see it however it will burn up your skin in no time.

Hydrogen fuel cells.. expensive as hell
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richp that is some great info. something is going on, govt. wants us dependent. i do know hydrogen is dangerous, but other countries obviously are doing it safely. when asked about hydrogen being too dangerous, one man said "thats what they said about gasoline"
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Somebody is putting the kabosh on this and the govt is in on it, question is how to remove the roadblocking politicians on the take, elections, take em to court, string a few from the lamp posts in DC and maybe the others will get the hint. Those dam fools are more concerned with keeping their jobs rather than doing them.
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awhille back here in florida there was a local guy that was on the news showed him sticking a garden house in his tank and filling up he had this contraption that converted in to a useable fuel few days later this guy was no where to be found.
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awhille back here in florida there was a local guy that was on the news showed him sticking a garden house in his tank and filling up he had this contraption that converted in to a useable fuel few days later this guy was no where to be found.
No surprise, if you did discover some miracle method of converting say water to burnable fuel or a cheap synthetic that anyone could brew at home you better have a dozen trustworthy body guards, a trustworthy law firm and enough money to keep the authorities at bay while you processed the patents, if it was me I'd also have a deadman switch that if I vanished the process would be released for free over the internet. We're talking trillions of dollars of investors, governments, corporations, investment portfolios, retirement funds, etc. How long do YOU think you would last if you threatened that...
Hell, if you invented the flux capacitor, Mr Fusion, it would be the same story unless you were surrounded 24x7 with live media coverage at your house but then there is always the odd accident like a jetliner accidentally hitting your house or cruise missile that would be sure to traced to some terrorist group. It's always a case of follow the money.
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Same with cancer. Some guy found a cure so they made him go to mexico. My friend's grandpa went down there and got cured with no side effects.
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98 cents for a gallon of distilled water vs 4.xx for a gallon of cheapest gas?
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