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Old 03-21-2014, 11:21 PM   #1
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Eastwood product question

I I bought eastwood rust converter and internal frame coating. After flushing the inside of my frame with water and letting it dry, should I apply the rust converter and then the coating? Or should I just do the coating alone with no converter?

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Old 03-22-2014, 02:56 AM   #2
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I've been thinking about this too, how are you gonna flush your frame?

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Old 03-22-2014, 08:22 AM   #3
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I've been thinking about this too, how are you gonna flush your frame?
You can drill a hole in the bottom of your frame in front of the rear control arm mount. Park on a slight decline and flush that sucker out with a power washer or standard garden hose.

Drilled some drain holes in my frame. I got pics

To the OP, I think you just clean it and spray. I thought the rust converter was for external applications, but I have certainly been wrong before. I'm sure someone will have a more informed answer for you.
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Old 03-22-2014, 08:36 AM   #4
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I think those converters are supposed to be washed off first.. I dont think its a bad idea to prep the surface with prep and etch (pphosphoric acid based) but ive never used the eastwood one.

When my frame gets done soon im gonna wash, spray prep and etch, wash, let dry/rinse with acetone to get it extra dry then hit it with the coating.. Surface prep is always everything but i imagine eastwood internal frame coating is pretty lenient since its designed to be sprayed over crap metal basically
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I used the Internal Frame coating directly after cleaning out my frame. It was fairly rusty inside and it worked great.
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Old 03-23-2014, 11:31 AM   #6
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The internal frame coating works amazing with or without a lot of prep. I didn't clean out my frame to well when I first did it. Later down the road I cleaned it out more and even the particles of rust I pulled out were fully covered in the paint. I would prep it well though, it can only be better.
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Old 03-23-2014, 12:45 PM   #7
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How are you going to use the converter on the inside of the frame? Do they make one that you can attach the spray hose to like the internal frame coating has?
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A true rust converter chemically changes the rust (iron oxide) into a non-rust (iron tannate). It is kind of like a primer so it is not rinsed off before something else is applied over the top of it. So it goes on first, then you can apply the coating over the top of it once the converter has cured.
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Old 03-23-2014, 04:23 PM   #9
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Cool thanks. Looks like I'll apply the converter then the coating after
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Old 03-23-2014, 04:23 PM   #10
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And yea comes in an aerosol and tube
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I understand it comes with a tube to attach to the bottle and all, but how in the world can you get it all inside your frame good? And how can you even see it to know you did a good coat on it and didn't miss spots? I like the idea of the rust converter and final coat but am lost on how you could get in there to do it and know it's a good job
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I understand it comes with a tube to attach to the bottle and all, but how in the world can you get it all inside your frame good? And how can you even see it to know you did a good coat on it and didn't miss spots? I like the idea of the rust converter and final coat but am lost on how you could get in there to do it and know it's a good job
I believe the hose is long and if you go by each weep hole you can hit mostly everything. If you want to look inside it's possible to invest in a plumbers camera or something
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Most tool rental places have little inspection cameras you can rent for a day. They have a small black and white screen so I don't know how well it would show coverage, and you definitely don't want to return it covered in coating. Placed my Eastwood order last night so I'll be going this soon. Someone suggested for the prep, make a 2 or 3 foot flexible wand with small nuts tied to the end of it. Throw it in a cordless and insert into frame to loosen up crud/flakes before rinsing out. If executed properly, sounds like it would work.
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Old 03-23-2014, 06:09 PM   #14
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The hose that comes with the spray has 4 holes at the end and shoots the coating in all directions. Up down and both sides so you get full coverage. It looks pretty easy to get all the frame.
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Old 03-24-2014, 05:28 AM   #15
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I just flushed put the frame and used the Internal Frame Coating by itself.

This is a quote from Eastwood's site:

"Tough phenolic resin penetrates, converts and encapsulates the rust on the internal surface"

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