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Old 08-29-2010, 12:54 PM   #1
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Ected lockers

Does any one run one? How are they and how is the switch done,does it come with everything you need for the setup or do u have to buy a separate switch.

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Of all the selectable lockers out there, the ECTED is the last one I personally would consider. Why? Because it is clutch-based. Its clutch is known to slip on really tough obstacles when it is locked up, not what you want happening at the wrong time. Plus its clutch pack WILL wear out and you then have to remove it and send it back to the factory to be rebuilt.

There are much better selectable lockers out there. In the order I personally would choose, it'd be the ARB Air Locker, Eaton E-Locker in a distant 2nd place, Ox-Locker in an even more distant 3rd place, and then in a very distant 4th place (off my list in reality) the ECTED.

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I'm looking towards the EATON E-Lockers, Origionally I looked at ECTED but after reading at the reviews they changed my mind. According to the people that bought them, They don't hold up to larger than stock tires, and the warranty becomes void if you use them with larger then stock tires as well
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What about powertrax?
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I'm pretty sure I'm gonna go with a detriot in the front and later on if I feel I need another I'd want a selectable in the rear. Because I wouldn't want it doing anything on road different. So just look at other options
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Oo missed that up there, so with lockers it's best to just save the money and go arb
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Oo missed that up there, so with lockers it's best to just save the money and go arb
Yes. ARB's, in my opinion, are far and away the best locker on the market. The first locker I ever got was an electric locker and I'll never get another one. It broke after about 6 months. The company replaced it for free, but wouldn't cover installation. That one lasted me about 3 years before it crapped out. I replaced it with an ARB and have been happy ever since. That was about 5 years ago.

I differ from Jerry by making OX locker my second choice behind ARB. I don't have any personal experience with one, but run with some guys that have them. They seem to hold up well to punishment. It's their difficulty to engage and disengage that turns me off from them.

Also, I would not recommend a detroit locker in the front axle. Your streetability will be fine but making tight turns will cause some loud popping (even in 2wd) and you will get some strange looks from people around you. A selectable in the front is better.
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but making tight turns will cause some loud popping (even in 2wd) and you will get some strange looks from people around you. A selectable in the front is better.
I don't believe this to be true, as unless there is torque applied, such as in 4 wd, it won't lock up and will act as open.

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I don't believe this to be true, as unless there is torque applied, such as in 4 wd, it won't lock up and will act as open.

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I agree, it would be hard to tell a Detroit Locker is up front in 2wd. Mine barely let me know it was there even in the rear. Generally speaking, the Detroit Locker is about the best behaved automatic locker out there.
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Yeah see I've heard both sides to the detriot in the front. And the popping on road is the only thing stoping me. Do all of you actually run them or is this just what people sau
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I used to run a lock rite in the front axle. It's not as beefy as the detroit, but it is my understanding that the function of the two is similar. In 2wd while making sharp turns (such as turning into a parking place) it would pop and rattle. Forgive my lack of technical terms but what was happening was the castelated faces of the locker that engage each other to create a spool were slipping past one another. Even though the axle was not engaged it would still do this. If in 4wd those 2 castelated faces would be pressed together creating a spool. After repacing it with a selectable locker I was once again able to make sharp turns in silence and decreased my turning radius. In 4wd the difference was tremendous as I no longer had to make 3 point turns on the trail to make the sharp turns.

To be clear, it was virtually unnoticable on the street. Only when nearly turning the wheel to its max limits would this happen.
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Do all of you actually run them or is this just what people sau
I used to run one in the rear of my 1ton ford 4x4.
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I've run Powertrax no-slips in two Jeeps now and they do pop even in 2 wheel drive on tight turns every once in a while. In 4x4 they pop all the time in turns. I ignore it. They have never given me any trouble in some 50k miles of running them and provide awesome traction. I'll probably only go to a Detroit in the rear if I ever upgrade to a super 35.
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Old 08-29-2010, 10:40 PM   #14
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So the popping is literally just a noise? It doesn't jerk or move any? Just a loud noise
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I used to run a lock rite in the front axle. It's not as beefy as the detroit, but it is my understanding that the function of the two is similar. In 2wd while making sharp turns (such as turning into a parking place) it would pop and rattle. Forgive my lack of technical terms but what was happening was the castelated faces of the locker that engage each other to create a spool were slipping past one another. Even though the axle was not engaged it would still do this. If in 4wd those 2 castelated faces would be pressed together creating a spool. After repacing it with a selectable locker I was once again able to make sharp turns in silence and decreased my turning radius. In 4wd the difference was tremendous as I no longer had to make 3 point turns on the trail to make the sharp turns.

To be clear, it was virtually unnoticable on the street. Only when nearly turning the wheel to its max limits would this happen.
Are the lockright rears about the same? I found a used rear axle with one on cl and lower gears. It's a Dana 35 but It's only 300 with a lock right locker new brakes and new 4.56 gears. I was thinking maybe I could get that and a cclip elim and run 33's. Would that be worth the money? Or is it better to just use my own and upgraded as I go? I just don't wanna get the auto lockers if it's bad in a dd because I'll just end up taking it out a few months from now when I go off to school in the spring
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Lockrights in the rear axle are terribly misbehaved, and the same issue exists with an Aussie and even worse with an EZ-Locker when talking about being installed in the rear axle.

In the front, they are well behaved when in 2wd other than the occasional clicking. The Powertrax No-Slip lunchbox locker doesn't even do that, it is virtually silent when in 2wd. I had a front No-Slip locker in the front of my '97 TJ for 7-8 years and honestly, in 2wd, you couldn't tell it was there. Not even on tight turns... no steering feedback and no noises or clicking, it was virtually silent and pretty much not even there when in 2wd.
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So in the rear it's best to go with a detroit or a selectable. And the front is pretty much whatever because in two wheel drive there virtually irrelevant besides a "pop" in sharp turns?
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So in the rear it's best to go with a detroit or a selectable. And the front is pretty much whatever because in two wheel drive there virtually irrelevant besides a "pop" in sharp turns?
In the rear both the Detroit and the No-Slip will make noise occasionally, at least in my experience. I should clarify my earlier post, the No-Slips in general make popping noises as does any similar locker when getting power. The most I've heard out of my No-Slip's in the front while in 2x mode is the occasional click (I wouldn't call it a pop) and you really have to listen for it. I only notice it when I'm running with the doors off and even then I have to listen for it. The rear pops occasionally but usually only in tight turns.

I believe the No-Slips are pretty well behaved. As with any locker you'll have to get used to driving them on the road in inclement weather (this includes the Detroit). There's nothing fatal about the behavior of either the No-Slip or the Detroit lockers in the rear, certainly nothing that you can't overcome with a days worth of the experience driving them.
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Any discussion back to the original post? Anyone have a good experience with the ECTED locker? Sure it is not for a hard core wheeler, but what about someone who wants a limited slip most of time and a locker-type engagement when wheeling? Sure might need to replace clutches, but everything wears out...
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Sure might need to replace clutches, but everything wears out...
You are correct. Everything does wear out, but a well built axle that is properly maintained can literally last a life time. Removing a locker to have the clutches replaced is a major PITA and I would venture to say that if this is done just once the cost will exceed that of installing a superior style locker in the first place.
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You are correct. Everything does wear out, but a well built axle that is properly maintained can literally last a life time. Removing a locker to have the clutches replaced is a major PITA and I would venture to say that if this is done just once the cost will exceed that of installing a superior style locker in the first place.
Well said. A better locker like an ARB Air Locker, Detroit Locker, etc. won't have to come out to be rebuilt. The initial cost savings of the ECTED over the far superior ARB Air Locker, for example, would be more than eaten up by labor and rebuild costs for the ECTED when its clutch pack wears out. The Tracloc's clutch pack seldom lasts more than 40-45K miles which has the same issue.
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If I'm running 33's on a stock 35 Is it fine to put an arb locker in or is it better to get a clip or 44 first. I think I remember reading stock axles aren't strong enough for them
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A stock Dana 35 is not suitable for a locker with any size tire, at least if you want it to be reliable and not be breaking axle shafts. I would only install a locker into a Dana 35 after installing Superior Axle's Super 35 or C-Clip Eliminator kit, or replace it with a Dana 44. Either of Superior Axle's kits would allow you to reliably run a locker and 35" tires on a Dana 35 for pretty much any reasonable usage.

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