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Old 02-08-2013, 05:26 PM   #1
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Angry Engo 9k winch

It never pays to try to save a hundred bucks. The winch arrived last week I mounted up the winch plate then went to set on the Engo, no instillation hardware. Send SIL to NAPA for grade 8 bolts 2 of the nuts slide into bottom of winch 2 do not. Use hammer and punch to tap in nut due to poor machining. The nut is in but lacks 1/8 to be all the way in to the bottom so the bolt won't start and the nut is never coming out.

Now we get to drill out the winch base so the bolt will start. Then we get to use a grinder on the other nut so it will slide freely in like the 2 on the other side. Maybe then it will mount to the plate??

All this is happining 15 miles from town while I'm on an oilfield location with nothing but hand tools. I should have known better.

Save your money buy a Warn.

Winch for sale cheap

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Old 02-08-2013, 07:02 PM   #2
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What a drag I feel for you. Where are the "Warn winchs aren't worth it" guys? See issues like this are exactly why it pays to buy quality over price. Chinese quality control is typically not consistent or completly lacking. Yes there are those that haven't had problems but there are also many who have.
At this point I am ready for a winch and I can afford a Chinese unit now but I'm waiting and saving my pennies for a Warn.

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Old 02-08-2013, 07:19 PM   #3
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Who did you get the winch from? I order my E10000 from JeepAddOns. Mine came with all the hardware and bolted up in about 20 minutes. Did you call the people you ordered it from and complain?
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Old 02-08-2013, 07:32 PM   #4
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No phil I haven't yet. It's just aggravating to have to go through this crap just to bolt on a winch. What should have been an hour long project is now going to take 2 days. I'm not going to wait another week just for hardware, but I will ask for some compensation of some sort for all my extra parts and the time I had to spend to make it work. If I could have gotten the nut back out I would have returned the whole thing and bought a Warn.

Scot save up and buy the Warn. I'll use this for a while and then put it on my car hauler and buy a Warn for the Jeep
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Old 02-10-2013, 01:50 PM   #5
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Well that sinks. Sounds like you might have used the wrong hardware to mount the winch. I just installed an engo 9k and used the provided hardware, no issues at all. The nuts that slide into the base of the winch were square from what i remember.

Sounds like you needed to contact the place you got it.

I used mine 3 times yesterday on the trail and it was great.
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Old 02-10-2013, 02:11 PM   #6
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You can add another mark to the "My Engo works fine" chart. Got an E10k last year and have used it several times since then with no problems. It came with all the required mounting hardware as well; and yes, the nuts that slide into the base of the winch are square.

Sounds like you got shorted some hardware by whoever you bought it from. And while i'm sure it hurts to hear, the only damage so far sounds like it came from you trying to hammer the wrong type of nut into the base.

Setbacks will put anyone in a bad mood. Cool off for a couple days, get everything put together as best as possible, and then see how it all works.
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Old 02-10-2013, 02:26 PM   #7
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I hate to throw fuel on the blazing winch fire... But my Warn winch plate for the 8274 didn't line up when I was installing my winch. The new Warn bumper lined up with the frame just fine, but the winch plate did not. I had to drill it out a bit to get it to fit. Stuff happens I guess.

But I still love my 8274.
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Old 02-10-2013, 03:04 PM   #8
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X2 on my Engo 10000. Bolted to my winch bumper without a problem. Came with all the proper hardware. Always been a reliable winch since the day I got it. Used it today with a snatch block to slide a big hunk of tree through the snow and off the road to get by.
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Old 02-10-2013, 10:53 PM   #9
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I just installed 2 engo e9000's and both went on without a hitch. All the hardware was there and lined up perfectly
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Old 02-11-2013, 05:33 AM   #10
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The nuts I purchased fit in 2 of the holes, ( Please read before you start telling me what I did wrong ) the other side was machined wrong by about 1/16" I'm pretty sure I can tell when 2 will work and 2 do not. So the nuts I used worked fine in 2 of the holes and not in the other 2 Who's fault is that? They sent NO hardware not just missing some pieces.

The nut I hammered in started in the grove but would not slide in like it should have, the other nut had to be ground down just to fit. POOR Machine work NOT operator error
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Just a qustion. Why didn't you call the company first thing and maybe they would have sent you a new one?
I'm not dogging, just wondering why you didn't just return it or at the least talk to the company before throwing the nuts in there?

I hope you get everything figured out b/c it sounds like you've had a very bad experience
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Old 02-11-2013, 06:25 AM   #12
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Just a bit more review... I have had my Engo E12000 for over a year and used it at least 20-30 times. I never have issues.... mounting was a snap... everything lined up.... and I even have a wireless remote I use consistently.

It's not a Warn, but I haven't had anyone turn down a pull from it because it's not either.....
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Old 02-11-2013, 03:29 PM   #13
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Just a qustion. Why didn't you call the company first thing and maybe they would have sent you a new one?
I'm not dogging, just wondering why you didn't just return it or at the least talk to the company before throwing the nuts in there?

I hope you get everything figured out b/c it sounds like you've had a very bad experience

My time off is very limited. I'm usually gone for 30-45 days at a time so when I get home it's balls out trying to get everything done. I never figured something so simple as sliding a nut into the machined out grove would be such a hassle. I made the mistake of driving the nut into the groove hoping it was paint build up or something easiy to fix. I'm not that I'm saying the winch won't preform well. I am just flusterated at all the hassle to get it mounted. As most have stated they had no issues as I would expext. It's muounted now and will stay there unless something happens, I just had to vent a little.
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My time off is very limited. I'm usually gone for 30-45 days at a time so when I get home it's balls out trying to get everything done. I never figured something so simple as sliding a nut into the machined out grove would be such a hassle. I made the mistake of driving the nut into the groove hoping it was paint build up or something easiy to fix. I'm not that I'm saying the winch won't preform well. I am just flusterated at all the hassle to get it mounted. As most have stated they had no issues as I would expext. It's muounted now and will stay there unless something happens, I just had to vent a little.
Cool, I have little to no experience with winches. My Jeep is a street queen that sees a few wooded trails. I don't really have a need for a winch, but I would like to have an old 8274
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Old 02-11-2013, 03:37 PM   #15
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One other thing is anyone having issues with the control box wires binding up on the grill. I have no clearance and the wires are in a bind. Not liking the wires against the grill.

Maybe someone could throw up a couple of pics of the clearance between the box and the grill.

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I relocated my box under the hood and got a wireless controller.... I didn't like the wires rubbing through the paint on the grill.
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One other thing is anyone having issues with the control box wires binding up on the grill. I have no clearance and the wires are in a bind. Not liking the wires against the grill.

Maybe someone could throw up a couple of pics of the clearance between the box and the grill.

thanks

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Something I always do when routing winch cables next to a rub point is to cover them with either a short length of old garden hose slit up the side, or plastic wire loom. Held in place with a couple zip ties, those will prevent a high amperage short if the wires are really rubbing hard.
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X2 on relocating the control box under the hood. I didn't like mine located ouside, for fear of tampering or vandals. just ran longer leads out the front , and located a double
throw "on" toggle switch in an empty switch slot in dash panel so i can operate from the drivers seat or from out side with the remote

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