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Old 02-22-2011, 09:18 AM   #1
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First big mod: LIFT! Before/after pics inside...

I posted this on my regional Jeep forum as well, figured I'd post it here too since this forum has given me lots of great info and insight!

Caught the mod bug and wanted to do something fun to the jeep. Was thinking of a snorkel but decided that with my tax refund id get a small lift and meaty tires. Stayed up all damn night on Friday with a dedicated friend and got it done at 9am Sat morning. What took forever wasn't really the fact that we couldn't use air tools between 10pm-7am (and we took a break from 8pm-2am), but it took so damn long to hand-press the bushings into the shocks! Sheesh why didn't they just do that at Rusty's woulda cut hours off the install!

Anyways, I couldn't be happier with the product and the final outcome. Its a Rusty's 3in basic kit and I put on 33x12.5 dunlop mud rovers on new 15x10 wheels (factory 15x8 Alcoas woulda needed wheel spacers, plus I love the black wheel look!). Its really fun so far, and even though it was a lot of work with basic hand tools we took our time and did everything right. No death wobble, good alignment, so far so good. She survived a 275 mile trip to Jersey and back on Sunday, all is still tight and well. I will probably install the transfer case drop kit before I go wheeling, but on the road she acts just fine without it, checked the driveshaft angle, looks fine.

I did install the new rear swaybar end links, MUCH strong looking than the plastic factory ones.

Check it out! Feel free to comment or critique, just figured I'd add this here to help push other noobs to go ahead and wrench away. If I can do it, anyone can!




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Old 02-22-2011, 09:23 AM   #2
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Looks great man. Im looking to lift mine in the near future as well. Just noticed your from Annapolis. I use to live in Arnold now im over on the eastern shore.

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Old 02-22-2011, 09:25 AM   #3
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id take those milk jugs off. and out some black krylon fusion on those fender flares and call it a day.
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Old 02-22-2011, 09:27 AM   #4
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Wait, what are the milk jugs? Dang, not used to all the Jeep jargon yet!

Yep, got a bunch of friends in Arnold. More room to breathe on the shore though! :-)
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Old 02-22-2011, 09:32 AM   #5
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Those plastic end caps on the bumper that look like milk jugs. I took my front ones off. Gives it a little better look. I'd leave the back ones but its up to you. X2 on the painting the fender flares. It only takes a few hours when you take your time and dramatically improves the look of your TJ.

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Milk jugs = plastic end-caps on the end of the stock bumpers...They just don't fit right IMO I have no idea what Jeep had in mind putting those on there.
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I am pretty sure those flares are charcoal colored not faded...lookin good though
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Old 02-22-2011, 09:51 AM   #8
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Looks real nice man!
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Old 02-22-2011, 10:20 AM   #9
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Oh ok, yeah the bumper end caps are kinda goofy aren't they?

Yeah they are painted fender flares, black would look smoother, agreed. Tires stick out a bit, kicked up lots of snow to the body/windows this morning! All in time

For now, I'm happy though!

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Wait, what are the milk jugs? Dang, not used to all the Jeep jargon yet!

Yep, got a bunch of friends in Arnold. More room to breathe on the shore though! :-)

Yeah man its definitely nice and quiet on the shore but the commute is way too crazy. Ill be moving back to that side of the bridge in the next few months.
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remove the Juggs and install pair of these flat end caps in their place ............. Jeep Wrangler TJ FRONT Bumper Plastic END CAPS, Mopar! - eBay (item 160538721415 end time Feb-27-11 13:50:18 PST)
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Weird, the pic of the red jeep in their auction looks like it has the jugs still?
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Why bother putting caps on the end? Maybe just to keep out the dirt. I couldn't get the Torx head screws out so I just cut mine so I have recessed "caps."
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plus I love the black wheel look!).



Looks a hell of a lot better man! Now you need to get those front windows tinted to match your hard top, you will be very pleased with the outcome like I was with mine. Also painting fender flares Black will make a big dif. 2, good looking rig there
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Hey, great job!! Looks great. I put on my lift this past weekend and a helpful tip for the bushings that I did was use the provided washers and bolt to tighten and the bushing should squeeze right in. Didn't have a problem and saved a lot of time! Just a helpful tip for the future or for someone else that is thinking about a lift
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Hey, great job!! Looks great. I put on my lift this past weekend and a helpful tip for the bushings that I did was use the provided washers and bolt to tighten and the bushing should squeeze right in. Didn't have a problem and saved a lot of time! Just a helpful tip for the future or for someone else that is thinking about a lift
Hmm, good tip for someone else who may see this! Oh well, got it done either way
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Nice looking jeep man
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Thanks! I took everyones advice and unscrewed the 'milk jugs' from the front and back. Took about 5mins and I'll be dammed.... it looks great! On looks alone looks if i tossed a brush guard on it, could look as good as an aftermarket bumper and have functionality of one too (protect hood and body damage and mount a winch)

Thanks again for the advice!


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Great looking jeep. Mind if I ask where you got the wheel/tire set up and how much it cost you?
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you, sir. Need a spare. What happens when you get a flat for some off the wall reason and you don't have one? Bad news.
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Looks great man, I can't wait to start at mine. Lookin forward to seein some pictures of her dirttty
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I will probably install the transfer case drop kit before I go wheeling, but on the road she acts just fine without it, checked the driveshaft angle, looks fine.
If you don't have vibes (post lift), don't bother installing the transfer case drop - it's not necessary.

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If you don't have vibes (post lift), don't bother installing the transfer case drop - it's not necessary.

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Thaanks everyone! I can't park it anywhere or fill up gas now without someone saying 'nice jeep!'

Yeah I should get a spare, and will def get one before I go wheeling. But I removed the rear tire carrier for a reason; I just think it looks better without it hanging on the back! I have a national roadside assistance and 4 free tire replacements from discounttiredirect.com (where I got the package deal) so yeah it'd be out of comission for a couple days until new tire is overnighted. Yeah, i can be stubborn

I am glad others agree that if all feels fine as it is, don't risk messing it up! But I still think sometimes 'why did they put it in the kit if it's not necessary'... oh well!
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Its more of just a if you need it, it's there kind of deal on the tcase drop.
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Its more of just a if you need it, it's there kind of deal on the tcase drop.
Gotchya. Cool! Thanks.

Same deal regarding the drop pitman and rear trac bar relocation bracket?

Use it if needed? Again the problem that those two parts correct (death wobble, right?) doesn't seem to be present right now.

Def keeping these parts though
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I forgot this is for a 3 inch kit. The trackbar relocation bracket you'll want to install so that the axle is centered under the Jeep. I can't remember if you mentioned whether or not you have a SYE. If you do you don't need to install the tcase drop. If you don't you'll want to so that the slip yoke doesn't come out of the tcase. As far as the drop pitman arm goes I'm not sure but you may want to put it on.
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Jeep looks a lot better now. Good job. Does it ride softer or stiffer than stock?

The stealership carries or can order the flat bumper endcaps for about $8.
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Ok then nevermind looks like I've got some work to do this weekend lol. No SYE, correct.

So I wouldn't be able to see/feel the axle being uneven? Rear axle looks straight to me. But I will be adding the parts this weekend since these parts seem to prevent wear over time?
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Jeep looks a lot better now. Good job. Does it ride softer or stiffer than stock?

The stealership carries or can order the flat bumper endcaps for about $8.
Thanks!

Its strange, over things like speedbumps and potholes it doesn't seem to transfer the bumps as harshly, so id say softer in that regard.

But then if I hit a stretch of asphalt that may have imperfections or be rolling kind of like a wave, these will rebound harsher than stock.

Potholes and speedbumps, softer feeling. Road 'waves' seem to hit a harmonic wave or note with the shocks/springs and it accentuates the 'wave' in the road to people in jeep... if that makes sense lol

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