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Old 06-25-2012, 10:58 PM   #1
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First set of lights help

Hey guys, tomorrow I'll be buying two of these cheap lights from Walmart for cosmetics and for trails at night. I'll be painting them black to get rid of that ugly chrome. I'm by no means a expert at wiring. The extent of my knowledge is wiring in a sub, head unit and amp. Anyway, what is it going to take for me to runs these lights to a switch inside my Jeep? I already have a switch installed but what else will I need to do? What size fuse will I need? Can I run it to the fuse box or with I need to run it to the battery with an inline fuse? Thanks guys! Any help appreciated!

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Old 06-25-2012, 11:37 PM   #2
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you'll need relays and toggle switches...


Second.... how do you plan on painting them?
I just did mine.
started with these...
blazer 100 watt - Walmart.com

After paint.


If you want to know what I did just let me know.

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Old 06-26-2012, 01:00 AM   #3
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you'll need relays and toggle switches...


Second.... how do you plan on painting them?
I just did mine.
started with these...
blazer 100 watt - Walmart.com

After paint.


If you want to know what I did just let me know.
I actually decided to do this because of your post!! Haha. Great price for great lights. Now to learn how to read I wiring diagram.. haha. I'm guessing the box is a relay?
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I actually decided to do this because of your post!! Haha. Great price for great lights. Now to learn how to read I wiring diagram.. haha. I'm guessing the box is a relay?
lol, cool.

Yes, relays are little boxes. I just ordered a set of 5 from Amazon for like $15. I can get you s link to them when I get to the office. For switches I went Radio shack. Found some nice old school toggles for $1.40 ea. I also ordered a fuse box because the plan is for the 4 Blazers and a light bar on the hood and one set of rear facing lights. I'm running one write into the new fuse box from the battery and then splitting off from there.
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Old 06-26-2012, 07:57 AM   #5
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Paint.... First, take them apart. Two bolts at the bottom of the rings. Once the rings are off the rubber seal and bulb will pull right off. Then you'll see how the bolt for mounting out is held in. metal tube for writing pulls right out, remove rubber grommet. Now you have a metal shell.

I did two coats of a rubberized undercoating, Duplicolor should work just fine. Let that dry for a day or two to make sure it's set. Then I did two to three coats with Krylon Fusion to give it s nice black finish.
For the rings, you could spray them, but I went an easier route. I covered them with black Gorilla tape. That shit is tough. I had to buy slightly longer bolts for the rings but they were cheap. In the end, I'm happy.
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Dragonii are those lights led or are they a regular bulb, ik on walmarts website it says led but I also noticed that it says halogen and ik it can't be both.
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Dragonii are those lights led or are they a regular bulb, ik on walmarts website it says led but I also noticed that it says halogen and ik it can't be both.
They are actually Halogen, H3 bulbs. Whoever wrote that on Walmarts site is an idiot.

You can also get them at Amazon.
Amazon.com: Blazer C52CW 6" Baja off Road Quartz Halogen Light-1 each: Automotive

And Amazon sells them under a different name with covers.
Amazon.com: Navigator NV-802C Utility Off-Road Light: Automotive
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Ok thanks, think I may get some and mount them on my roller fairlead for my winch to add some distance lights, since I already have fog lights
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If you are just doing one set you will only need one relay, if you do more, use one relay per pair.
You can get them cheap at Amazon.
Amazon.com: AGT (5 Pack) 30/40 AMP Relay Harness Spdt 12V Bosch Style (40AMP-HRNS): Automotive

Here's the fuse box I am using since I am doing more than one set.
Amazon.com: Blue Sea Systems 5028 ST Blade Fuse Block with Cover: Sports & Outdoors

One main wire in, 6 fuses and 6 wires coming out.
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Sweet, thanks man!
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@Dragonii - As the fuse box isn't water tight (according to the reviews), Where do you plan to install this?
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@Dragonii - As the fuse box isn't water tight (according to the reviews), Where do you plan to install this?
not sure yet, thinking about in the cowl or high on the firewall.

If I feel the need to make it water proof I'll mount it inside of something.
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Please excuse my ignorance, but i was wondering what the purpose of the relay was in this circuit? Last time i wired a set of lights i don't remember having to use one.
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Please excuse my ignorance, but i was wondering what the purpose of the relay was in this circuit? Last time i wired a set of lights i don't remember having to use one.
Basically, a relay is heavy duty switch that is flipped by a light duty (toggle) switch. It's safer.
It can take a light electrical current from your fuse panel and turn on a heavy load.

Not sure if that helps.
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Without the relay the switch carries the whole load which for 100 amp lights would be Just over 8 amps per light, with the relay you can use a much smaller switch and not have to run heavy wire to and from the switches, only from the relay.

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Without the relay the switch carries the whole load which for 100 amp lights would be Just over 8 amps per light, with the relay you can use a much smaller switch and not have to run heavy wire to and from the switches, only from the relay.

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That helped me a lot, thanks.
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Now would this be the same process if you wanted to run several sets of lights, such as fog lamps, rock lights, and misc. interior lights? Are there any common leads that you can use between the sets such as battery or ground?
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Now would this be the same process if you wanted to run several sets of lights, such as fog lamps, rock lights, and misc. interior lights? Are there any common leads that you can use between the sets such as battery or ground?
I have plans on "rock lights", even though we don't have rocks here. I thought they would be useful I'd I had yup change a part on the dark or dig her out after the sun goes down. I plan to use led rope style lights, they won't need a relay as they don't draw enough to require it.
As for interior, I upgraded to led's that use the stock light sockets.
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Now would this be the same process if you wanted to run several sets of lights, such as fog lamps, rock lights, and misc. interior lights? Are there any common leads that you can use between the sets such as battery or ground?
The 12v to the relay's from the battery could be a common wire as long as it is rated for the total load as if all the lights were on at the same time. You could just run it from one #30 relay terminal on the relay to the next as the relay's would be turned on individually. Just total up the draw from all of your lights and go from there. Now if you are talking alot of amperage, then you may want to run seperate power wires as a 8 ga. or 6 ga. may be hard to hide where a couple of 10's might be easier.

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For those of you looking of a fuse block, check out what Blue Sea has to offer. It's marine-grade and works extremely well on my motorcycle (6th gen Honda VFR, thank you for asking).
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Just did my first set of lights. The diagram that Dragonii posted is very helpful, relay is mounted on the firewall behind the battery. I had another fusible line that ran directly from the switch to the battery, but the diagram above works perfectly even with that setup as that wire, well its on its own, from the switch straight to the battery.


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Old 07-03-2012, 12:08 AM   #22
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Well I'm done minus painting that ugly chrome. Thanks for all your help!!!!!
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For those of you looking of a fuse block, check out what Blue Sea has to offer. It's marine-grade and works extremely well on my motorcycle (6th gen Honda VFR, thank you for asking).
The one I got is Blue Sea.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...ls_o01_s00_i00
And it just came in yesterday. I think All I have left to buy is the wire.

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