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Old 11-30-2012, 05:22 PM   #1
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First snow with the new TJ

Well, we finally got a decent amount of snow, so I decided to test the BFG A/T.

I have driven snow my whole life (grew up in VT, now live at Lake Tahoe) and I had a 98 with Hankook iPikes for a winter. The Jeep was unstoppable! That year we received 800 inches, and the plowing here sucks. They mostly use front-loaders so a good 1-2 inches get packed down and lasts for 4 days. They can't salt due to runoff into the lake.

So, today we got 8-12" of slick, slushy snow. I took her up some pretty steep hills, around some nasty turns, on both unplowed and tracked-out roads. Also nailed a massive slush puddle about axel deep.

The tires are not that impressive, but with decent driving skills I think they may work. I tried aggressive stopping going uphill at 40 mph in 2wheel, and slid for ~100 yards! Got to say I was a little nervous but pulled out of it nicely. There was maybe 4 inches on that road (roughly 6500 feet elevation). 1000 feet higher there was a foot of the white stuff. Once I put it in 4high I had very few issues. A little trouble climbing steep hills from a dead stop, and some sliding with hard braking.

I didn't like the "grabbiness" of the tires, or how they sling the snow. As I understand it, Muds clean out, while snows pack in. Snow on snow creates friction. These clean themselves out pretty well, which I believe to be a negative.

So, snow drivers with ATs, what's your experience? Has anybody siped these tires before? If so, how much improvement are we looking at? I was quoted $11 per, so that's way cheaper than $650 plus studs for new iPikes.
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Old 11-30-2012, 06:22 PM   #2
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Hmmm...in the first and second pics, you need a shave...

I haven't had a chance to try my Duratracs in the snow yet, and the last time I had a set of BFG ATs I was living in N. Texas.

The Pro-Comp ATs do pretty good in snow, and I expect the Duratracs to do well in snow (not that we get much here).

Siping them should help, and probably quite a bit.

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I had my Duratracs out in the snow and ice last Sunday.... they did GREAT!!!!

Waiting for a big snow to hit... chain up and head out!!!!
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Old 11-30-2012, 07:36 PM   #4
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I had my Duratracs out in the snow and ice last Sunday.... they did GREAT!!!!

Waiting for a big snow to hit... chain up and head out!!!!
You ever do siping? Hope the winter stays like this!
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i had some bfg a/t on a 98 chevy zr2 blazer and they were on it when i bought it with good tread so i thought id keep them and try them out. well i thought they worked fine in the snow we got here. i didnt slide much and well its kansas so not to many steep hills so i cant give a climbing review,but my dad had them on his 99 tj and he did nothing but complain about them. lol ive got a set on my tj now and we havent had any snow yet so idk if maybe my blazer was better in the snow than my dads jeep but well see. mayybe ill have a different review after i try them in the snow in my jeep.
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Very nice jeep. looks like a blast!
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You ever do siping? Hope the winter stays like this!
Nope.....
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My duratracs did great in about 1foot snow until I went off a little rock ledge and ended up stuck to my headlights in snow, oops! Luckily there was a guy behind me that was able to pull me out. Can't wait for another trip to Tahoe in a few weeks
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I've run many sets of BFG A/T's, on many different vehicles, in many different snow conditions, and have always thought they did well. Definitely better than BFG M/T's or Pro Comp M/T's on hard pack.
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i had some bfg a/t on a 98 chevy zr2 blazer and they were on it when i bought it with good tread so i thought id keep them and try them out.
Not 100% sure, but I think a Blazer weighs more than a TJ. The one I learned to drive on was prolly a 85-95 range and it drove like a tank. I've swapped ends with my old TJ a few times, but that was in VT with LT Xcountry tires.
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Not 100% sure, but I think a Blazer weighs more than a TJ. The one I learned to drive on was prolly a 85-95 range and it drove like a tank. I've swapped ends with my old TJ a few times, but that was in VT with LT Xcountry tires.
His ZR2 isn't a full size Blazer, but still heavier than a TJ. 85-95 could be S10 OR full size. "Old" body style, leaf spring full size through '91, then they went to the newer body style (GMT400), IFS.
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Duratracs are pretty much the #1 AT in snow and ice performance...

never been a huge fan of the BFG ATs.
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Very nice jeep. looks like a blast!
Thanks. I got a weird look from the plow driver. I was driving about a car width off the road tying to avoid where he had just plowed
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The BFG A/T's that came on my Dakota when I lived in Indiana did really well in the snow. That truck surprisingly tanked it's way through a snowstorm in Chicago They were 31x10.50's if I remember correctly.

My 97 TJ had 33x12.50 Pro Comp A/T's and I found myself facing the wrong direction more than a few times. Could have been 17 year old operator error.

I bought my current TJ with 31x10.50 BFG A/T's and took it up to Yosemite with snow still on the ground and beasted through that. Now I have 33x12.50 Falken Wildpeaks and I was slipping and sliding all around Tahoe last year. Great road tires, great rock tires, as for snow and mud, I would be willing to switch back to the BFG's. It's just a great tire with plenty of experience in all situations.
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Duratracs are pretty much the #1 AT in snow and ice performance...

never been a huge fan of the BFG ATs.
Sweet rig, I just read through your build

I've heard very good things about Duratracs, and most likely will switch to them once the BFGs wear out. PO bought them last year and only put 1500 miles on them. I'll average 100 miles a week so it may be a while...
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My 97 TJ had 33x12.50 Pro Comp A/T's and I found myself facing the wrong direction more than a few times. Could have been 17 year old operator error.
Yeah, I found out that Jettas don't always stay upright when I was 17

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I bought my current TJ with 31x10.50 BFG A/T's and took it up to Yosemite with snow still on the ground and beasted through that.
Sounds like a fun trip. I think I'm going to sipe mine and hold off on buying snow specific. There's other things to spend $ on
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My duratracs did great in about 1foot snow until I went off a little rock ledge and ended up stuck to my headlights in snow, oops! Luckily there was a guy behind me that was able to pull me out. Can't wait for another trip to Tahoe in a few weeks
Make sure and Don't know what it is about Tahoe, but I get like a wave a week and it's usually the same Jeep
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I'm from canada and have always had bfg at's on my jeep and have been through snow so deep it was coming over the hood with no problems with traction. not so good on ice though ...but what is...
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I've had BFG AT for over 6 years and I love them especially in the snow. I would not use another tire on my jeep ever.
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Make sure and Don't know what it is about Tahoe, but I get like a wave a week and it's usually the same Jeep
Come off the hill to Reno and get a wave a mile... CJ's, YJ's, TJ's and JK's... we all wave.

Just a snow shot of last week at Hunter Lake.... Cory on 35's



Finding out way across the lakebed....

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Do u guys air down for deep snow?
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Old 12-01-2012, 11:55 AM   #23
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Do u guys air down for deep snow?
I run 12 PSI because where we start is no snow....



you can see the snowcaps beyond the second ridge.....




As we get up to elevation... we get mud, ice and slush...





powder is up on top of the mountains and I do just fine at 12 PSI with my 33" Duratracs
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Hey what is siping
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Hey what is siping
Basically cut little slits across the top tread. It increases friction and supposedly it increases traction in the snow. Haven't done it before, but for $44 I'll give it a try.

http://discounttire.com/dtcs/tireSiping.dos
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I've run many sets of BFG A/T's, on many different vehicles, in many different snow conditions, and have always thought they did well. Definitely better than BFG M/T's or Pro Comp M/T's on hard pack.
Same here. 2 TJ's, the explorer and the f250 all had BFG A/T's. Loved them in the snow. We sometimes get 5feet of snow up here. I never once installed chains while running those tires.
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Oh man, that looks fun!!
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Never heard of that here in wisconsin, I will have to ask around. Some guys will groove their tires, but that is mostly for racing

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