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Old 06-01-2011, 10:14 PM   #1
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Flush tail light mod

I just bought some corner guards and am really interested in doing the flush mount tail light guards at the same time since I came really close to busting the stock ones on the trail a couple weekends ago.
I used the search function and did some reading on this. I want to do the 4" tail lights like a lot of you have already done. My question is, will this brake light also act as the turn signal?? I'm somewhat confused on that. Also, what about reverse lights? I could swear that I saw some of these with the reverse lights built in. Can anyone shoot me over some links?? I'm pretty clear on how to do the install but I'm looking for an actual 4" brake light 'unit' to put in. Are there any that you can just 'plug and play' yet?

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Old 06-01-2011, 10:26 PM   #2
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The same 4" unit will act as a brake/turn/tail lamp. As far as reverse lights...you might have to get creative with some ideas. Also might wanna look into somehow lighting up your license plate because usually the drivers tail light does that from underneath. Unless it's not required in your area.

After you wire in the new lights you'll need to add some resistors or a different flash module if they are LED lights. I don't know the details on that though.

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Old 06-01-2011, 10:30 PM   #3
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Ya, I was planning on coming up with something for the license plate. Shouldnt be too difficult. I am really surprised that an off road company has not come up with an easy solution for this yet. This seems to be a fairly common mod.
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Old 06-01-2011, 11:04 PM   #4
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The problem is the amount of body modification needed to run true flush mount LEDs, no company can really sell such a kit. Plus with all the write ups and easiness of finding the right parts they wouldn't sell.

These are my flush mounts:



Just at 50$ total from superbrightleds.com for the lights and license plate light, then I just modified my current flasher.

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Old 06-02-2011, 07:25 AM   #5
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How should I decide where the center of the round lights should be?
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Old 06-02-2011, 07:59 AM   #6
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Do your corner guards have bolt holes that line up with factory mounting points? If so I used hole saw on the top bolt hole for pilot hole. That way it removes any room for error.
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Old 06-02-2011, 10:09 AM   #7
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Poison Spyder sells a kit that includes the round tail/brake/signal lights and includes the correct flasher. Then you're on your own if you want to expand to include license plate, backup, and side marker lights.
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Old 06-02-2011, 12:20 PM   #8
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LED Flush Mount Tail Lights - 1

^ultimate guide for it, including flasher modifications



There's mine. I got the lights from NAPA for $12 a piece and the license plate light from AutoZone. I checked out the Wal-Mart LEDs but after hooking them up, I really ended up not liking the design (it's a flower-style). The license plate LED bar was one of those ricer-parts at AutoZone and was temporary, but I've kept it and it hasn't bothered me.

The brake lights and tail lights are integrated. Usually it just lights up brighter or more lights brighten up for the brakes - like an older style vehicle or LED truck taillight (that's what these are). The modification is incredibly easy.

Use a 4.5" hole saw. Don't try and jigsaw, dremel, angle grind it or whatever. Use a hole saw no doubt. I cut out a piece of cardboard as a template to decide where I wanted the holes to be. Use a level to ensure the lights are evenly placed.

I don't have a reverse light, but haven't even noticed it. Although I'm sure everyone I've backed into has.
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Old 06-02-2011, 12:25 PM   #9
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Try these:
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hope this hleps!
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Or if you want LEDs without cutting your tub and have the sidemarkers and reverse lights in one unit, try these from Savvy Offroad plus they won't burn out all the time like those ORO ones.
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Old 06-02-2011, 01:08 PM   #11
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lol those cost a ton but they would make things a little easier. still gonna pass on the savvy ones.

gooseofdeuce: Thats kindof what I was thinking of doing but I wasnt sure since they are round. Didnt know if that would cause a problem as far as the centering or the hinges for the tailgate.

I'm gonna work on getting some lights for it today. I saw these at harbor freight. They only have 3 wires on them one white, black, and red. How many wires are on the factory wiring harness? If you couldnt tell, I'm not an electrician lol
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The factory harness has three wires; turn/brake, parking lights, and reverse.

All the flush LEDs have three wires (like you said) and are brake/turn, parking, and ground.

The stock light ground through the housing, then to the body, so you have to create your own grounds. I used some sheet metal screws and drilled them into the body mount "boxes" that are back there.

In the link I gave to my install I give color codes, or you can use a voltmeter or teat light to figure out what wire does what.
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There's 4, one additional wire for the backup white lights. Read the link I gave you it's got all the info you need
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I wired into the stock harness. It was fairly simple...just had to cut the holes and wire them in. Took maybe an hour?

I also just picked up the flush mount, round, led, trailer lights at walmart...it only cost 30 dollars total for the lights.
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There's 4, one additional wire for the backup white lights. Read the link I gave you it's got all the info you need
Technically there are 3 on the drivers side and 4 on the passenger side. As I outlined in my thread on the passenger side there are 4 wires; stop/turn (right side), stop/turn (left side), and parking. Don't ask me why, but they ran the drivers side stop/turn signal wire to the passenger side and put it in the factory plug as a dummy and does not function.

So all said and done there are only 2 wires you splice into on each side, three if you have separate reverse lights.
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If I'm reading that correctly, its saying that the white wire is the ground, not the black?? Thought ground was universally black.

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