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Old 11-08-2007, 11:13 PM   #1
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Fog Light Install. Help!

My '05 came with out fogs. is there a kit out there that looks factory, but is not as difficult to install as the mopar kit?! I really don't want to take the dash apart!! how about using the factory toggle switches in center stack? I'm a newbie, but there's got to be a kit out there. Thanks!

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Old 11-08-2007, 11:16 PM   #2
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I have a set of IPF 968s on both of my jeeps. They are as simple as it gets for wiring and produce tons more lighting over factory fog lights. You can wire them to work with the factory fog light switch but that takes some extra time and splicing.

968s on the wifeys jeep.


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Old 11-08-2007, 11:57 PM   #3
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putting a switch in the dash anywhere is going to require taking it apart. And really, the TJ dash is a piece of cake to remove and install. Your best bet like Mr.C said is after market. I bought a set of KC Daylighters for $99 and am very pleased with them.
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Old 11-09-2007, 12:40 AM   #4
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None of the fogs are hard to install, shouldnt take more than an hour, maybe two if you havent done it before (and if you need help just come on here and ask, theres alot of knowledgeable people on here), and taking the plastic dash piece off to run wires is simple, just a couple screws on both sides and it pops right off. When you buy an aftermarket kit it'll come with a switch in it...you can use that one or modify the ones already built into the jeep. I used the aftermarket switch, drilled a hole in the plastic dash piece on the right side, just big enough to get the switch in and it looks nice and professional. I'll send you a link to a picture of the switch if you want one.

I have hella 500's i bought for about 60 bucks and the look good and are pretty bright, but they're only 55 watts...if you want something that will blind some people look into 100-130 watt lights...they'll be more expensive for sure, but they'll also produce alot more light. Some KC lights look almost like stock mopar lights so if you're going for a stock look check those out.
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I have IPF's from DPGOffroad and I have Mopar fogs (freebies).

I ran the IPF harness for them when I first installed them on the bumper. I have since moved them and run my own wiring setup, cut and spliced to fit, neatly.

I've used Carling switches (like the ARB locker switches) for my front fogs (Mopar), front driving (IPF), and my rear fogs (O'Reilly's cheapos), and it looks rather clean.

I am NOT an electrical expert, but just thinking out the wiring process it is actually quite easy to do. I used the IPF harness that came with the lights as my 'model' to how to run and configure the wires.

Front setup:


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Switches:


I have a writeup for the second bezel and it includes information on how to wire up your own lights. Since my IPF's are now on the light hoop and my rear fogs stock harness was too short (and THIN), running my own made the most sense unless I wanted a bunch of splices in bad places.

Do a search here on 'second switch bezel' and you should find my writeup (I don't have it bookmarked) and it should help you should you choose to do it yourself.
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Old 11-09-2007, 08:19 AM   #6
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I have hella 500's i bought for about 60 bucks and the look good and are pretty bright, but they're only 55 watts....
Yeah mee too I got a pair of yellow Hella 500's.fog lights (not to good if you are looking something really bright.) but easy to install.
Well i used the original wiring on mine,but I done it on My friend's jeep as well and It didn't took more than an Hour.
Also I'm looking forward to get some IPF's or KC for my winshield, since Ocala National Forest can be pretty darm foggy on winter mornings.
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Old 11-09-2007, 11:44 AM   #7
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Don't panic, the switch, relay and hookup are really pretty easy. The relay is nothing fancy, all the relay is is a remote controlled switch that you use a mechanical switch to operate.
I did my 98XJ with the factory OEM add on kit that I got from the dealer, it came as two pieces, harness and then the fogs in two kits, I only put the wiring in the cab and used Hella lights and a Hella fused relay. The XJ comes apart similar to the TJ except for having to pull that strip out by the windshield and those screws. Once you do the wiring inside you end up with ONE wire going thru the firewall to the relay. I use an ice pick to make a tiny hole in one of the wiring bundles bushing thingys and push it thru.
Almost all the Hella kits come complete, you can tap the voltage feed of the low beam tab on the headlight socket to have them come on with low beams and off with high which is how most states want it.
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Old 11-09-2007, 12:06 PM   #8
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erickpl where did you get those switches and how did you hook them up?
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Got the switches from www.otrattw.com. There's a JPG that shows all the pinouts for the switch on the back that show which is for switch light power, switch ground, relay power, etc.

Terminals:
2 - power from fuse block
3 - to solenoid (or relay for the goglights being activated)
6 - hook into existing illumination for dash for lights on the switch
7 - ground
8 - ground

Wiring in progress...

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Old 11-09-2007, 07:50 PM   #10
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Thank for all the input!!

Glad I found this forum, you guys are great. Do you think I can use the IPF kit w/ a factory type rocker switch? I think they're avail. from dealer. this way it will look at home next to the OD switch.
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Old 11-13-2007, 07:57 AM   #12
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Switches from www.otrattw.com.

The switches are the same as used by ARB for their air lockers (made by Carling).
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Glad I found this forum, you guys are great. Do you think I can use the IPF kit w/ a factory type rocker switch? I think they're avail. from dealer. this way it will look at home next to the OD switch.
The factory rocker is a pain. Expect to spend $35 for the $0.98 pig tail you need to fit the switch.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Jeep-...spagenameZWDVW

And even it needs some mods to fit.
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Old 11-13-2007, 09:19 PM   #14
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Thanks, I see what you're talking about! I guess I'll go with the switch that comes with the kit.
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Old 11-14-2007, 12:32 PM   #15
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Hey erickpl im thinking about getting one of those switches and hooking up my 500's to it. After i remove the hella switch from the wires how would i go about installing Carling switch on the bezel just like you did?
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KC Daylighters are the way to go! I have 4!

And they come with everything you need.
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Jonny, not too sure on the Hella switch, but for my IPF, I ran the three wires for it to the proper locations on the switch, then added one for the dash illumination, and it worked just fine.
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Old 11-15-2007, 09:43 AM   #19
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thanks i think im gonna order that switch and install it while im painting my flares over my thanksgiving break. Love the look of those Carling switches, cant wait to get them installed!
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Glad to help.

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