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Old 08-29-2008, 02:21 PM   #1
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Fog light mounting spots on stock bumper??

Are the 4 holes on the stock front bumper on my 04 wrangler x made for mounting the fog lights?? mine never came with them and i was goin to buy some, or do i have to drill holes into my stock bumper

ok so which holes are for mounting the fog lights?? and what are the 2 bolts that appear to be big allen head screw drivers bolts?

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Old 08-29-2008, 02:24 PM   #2
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no need to drill, the factory holes are big enough.

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Are the 4 holes on the stock front bumper on my 04 wrangler x made for mounting the fog lights?? mine never came with them and i was goin to buy some, or do i have to drill holes into my stock bumper
If you are using factory foglights your fine,they use the round hole infront of the square hole there on your bumper.For aftermarket lights the hole "might" have to be enlarged some to fit.

ok so which holes are for mounting the fog lights??



and what are the 2 bolts that appear to be big allen head screw drivers bolts?

The bolts your talking about there hold your bumper to the jeep frame. They are "TORX" bolts not allen. If you plan on doing much to your jeep I suggest you pick up a set of GOOD torx sockets and wrench. Half of your jeep is put together with them.



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Old 08-29-2008, 03:36 PM   #4
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bumper holes

The outer bolt holes are for your bumper ends that someone took off?
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Old 08-29-2008, 11:32 PM   #7
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and im pretty sure those TORX bolts are for the factory recovery hooks let me see if i can find a pic of them on mine yeah its not a factory bumper but it should work that where they came from

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solo - Those torx mount the hooks to the bumper to the frame, not just for the hooks.
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The outer bolt holes are for your bumper ends that someone took off?
MOunting holes for the bumper ends??? what are those used for, and u said someone took them off, took what off??
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MOunting holes for the bumper ends??? what are those used for, and u said someone took them off, took what off??
On either end of the bumper is an extension piece (plastic I believe) that goes out about 8". It's basically the ends/corners of the front bumper.

It is kind of odd you have the stock front bumper and someone just took the ends off though...
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On either end of the bumper is an extension piece (plastic I believe) that goes out about 8". It's basically the ends/corners of the front bumper.

It is kind of odd you have the stock front bumper and someone just took the ends off though...
ok thanks i did a search and seen them they are fairly cheap
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ok thanks i did a search and seen them they are fairly cheap
NO!! don't waste $, U don't need them and most think they look bad anyway. It's up to you.......but someone removed for a reason!

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I actually did my first mod on my 06 wrangler X. I went to Pepboys with a buddy and found a pair of KC Daylighter 223 for 100 bucks. So I got em and the hardest part of the installation was drilling new holes in my stock bumper. The bolts in the lights are 3/4". The stock holes are 3/8". It wasnt that much work to do it and I ran the wire from the switch (which is mounted where the four switch templates are) through the grommet in the firewall on the driver side, up the driver side of the hood and dropped it down right behind the headlight. Spliced in the driver side light, ran the wire through the hollow tube in the bumper to the passenger light. I managed to hide everything well enough except for the silver conduit that I wanted to show. Took me about 2 hours to do everything but that was mixed in with talkin time and smoke breaks. Now that I have the lights, I naturally need a lift and new tires. and so the mod bug begins...
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NO!! don't waste $, U don't need them and most think they look bad anyway. It's up to you.......but someone removed for a reason!

I agree. I took off both front and rear and threw them in the trash.
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I agree. I took off both front and rear and threw them in the trash.
First thing I did to mine.
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Old 09-02-2008, 12:34 AM   #16
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NO!! don't waste $, U don't need them and most think they look bad anyway. It's up to you.......but someone removed for a reason!

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well in that case im not gettin them and puttin the money towards somthin else lol. But just curious, I dont know if anyone could chime in or not but why would someone take them off??Are there any real reasons why, im new to jeeps so i wouldnt know why they took them off
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I actually did my first mod on my 06 wrangler X. I went to Pepboys with a buddy and found a pair of KC Daylighter 223 for 100 bucks. So I got em and the hardest part of the installation was drilling new holes in my stock bumper. The bolts in the lights are 3/4". The stock holes are 3/8". It wasnt that much work to do it and I ran the wire from the switch (which is mounted where the four switch templates are) through the grommet in the firewall on the driver side, up the driver side of the hood and dropped it down right behind the headlight. Spliced in the driver side light, ran the wire through the hollow tube in the bumper to the passenger light. I managed to hide everything well enough except for the silver conduit that I wanted to show. Took me about 2 hours to do everything but that was mixed in with talkin time and smoke breaks. Now that I have the lights, I naturally need a lift and new tires. and so the mod bug begins...
dide u get the long range lights or just regular fog lights?? im lookin at the long range lights for mine
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I got the long range lights, if I had to guess, they would be 6" diameter lights. I got my first shot to use 'em tonight and holy SH*T they are bright...I saw the reflection in a deer's eye about 300 ft down the road. For 100 bucks I believe that they are an excellent investment. What I don't get and maybe someone can help me out on this, a weaker (candlepower wise) set of slimlighters were going for 200 a pair. Is it just because they're slimmer? Weird if you ask me...
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why would someone take them off??Are there any real reasons why, im new to jeeps so i wouldnt know why they took them off
Cuz they Ugly!

Most people don't like the look of them, they are like big 'milk jugs' bolted to the bumper, and not much thicker than that either.......so they serve no real purpose.....other than being the 1st thing to make contact with anyhthing you get too close too which renders them dented immediately... especailly on the trail. My guess is your Previuouse Owner tagged one of them at the mall....and decded to just take em off.
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I got the long range lights, if I had to guess, they would be 6" diameter lights. I got my first shot to use 'em tonight and holy SH*T they are bright...I saw the reflection in a deer's eye about 300 ft down the road. For 100 bucks I believe that they are an excellent investment. What I don't get and maybe someone can help me out on this, a weaker (candlepower wise) set of slimlighters were going for 200 a pair. Is it just because they're slimmer? Weird if you ask me...
are those the ones that come with the wire harness relay and all ready to install, cuz ive seen some that dont and u have to go buy them somewhere else.
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The box came with the switch, inline fuse, splicers, grounding connections, and 21 ft of wire. For once, I bought something from pepboys that had everything needed to make it work and didn't have to go back! the 21 ft of wire was just right for how I wired it.
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How did you guys mount the hooks bars etc to the bumper.
I have some mysterious bar or something running through my bumper. It conflicts with the factory star bolts. See my thread i have posted.
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I just drilled out new holes because the stock ones were too small and too far in. Even if I had drilled out the stock holes the lights were too big and would interfere with the bumper. For the wiring I just chopped out the stock harness and put butt connectors going to the stock wires. I can get more pics if needed.

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Well I'm mounting a push bar that lines up with the factory holes because it's a bolt on. I have longer bolts wit tow hooks I baught and plan to use thoose.
Should I just take off the factory ones and see what happens?

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