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Old 02-03-2011, 01:30 PM   #1
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Fog Lights??

I am looking to install some foglight/long distance lights on my 2005. I have all of the wiring for the fogs, but no switch. Unfortunately the factory switch for the foglights is located on the turn signal/multifunction switch. It wouldn't make sense to buy a whole new multifunction switch just to maintain the factory look, so I am either going to wire up a seperate switch for the fogs, or bypass the switch and let them be on while the low beams are on. Any ideas on which long distance lights to get or the best way of wiring them?

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foglights and long distance lights are two totally different set of lights...they do different things. FOG lights are YELLOW....don't let anyone else try to convince you that white lights are FOG lights, they aren't White lights are DRIVING lights and reflect back on any fog, low clouds, steam, etc. and do not penetrate. YELLOW lights don't reflect back but have limited distance range...hence the difference between FOG and LONG DISTANCE.
FOG lights (and low beam driving lights) should be focused about 50-75 feet in front of you to HIT THE GROUND.....not be focused in people's eyes...because the purpose is to see the road surface in front of you. Long Distance lights should be focused the same as your high beams (I am not sure of the distance for those-how far 'off' the ground and how far away). If you have the factory 'switch' then the wiring harness for fog lights should be hiding somewhere behind the radiator shroud...or hanging down inside the grill...should be there somewhere. If you can't find it then you'll need to wire up switches, relays, etc. and remember...if those lights blind people driving at you-that can get you a ticket!

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Thanks for the reply and the details. I am aware that fogs,long distance are different, I think I am leaning towards long distance lights though, not too much fog in Missouri... My problem is that I have the wiring harness for auxilary lights, but I do not have a switch. (at least I believe that the connectors mounted in my front fenders are for auxilary lights) I am trying to get feedback on whether I should get a switch or just wire them to work with the headlights. and if I could/should use the factory wiring if that is indeed what the connectors I have are for.
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Old 02-03-2011, 03:13 PM   #4
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The switch for my stock aux lights is at the end of the turn signal switch. Just pull it outwards. That should activate the two wiring harnesses mounted in the front fenders.
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Old 02-03-2011, 03:27 PM   #5
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Bought a pair of kc 100w fogs lights, my jeep didnt come with any. This switch was included but it wouldnt mount in the factory switch panel below the climate control nobs. Heres a link to where i got mine. Click on the Carling Tech Contura link on the left side. They have switches that are already pre-labeled.

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Old 02-03-2011, 03:37 PM   #6
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X2 for Otrattw I have an aux switch from them.

I saw some 55 watt kc factory replacement driving lights on eBay earlier today. They were around $60. That is what I am running on my jeep. And they are legal most places.
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Old 02-03-2011, 04:09 PM   #7
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X2 for Otrattw I have an aux switch from them.

I saw some 55 watt kc factory replacement driving lights on eBay earlier today. They were around $60. That is what I am running on my jeep. And they are legal most places.

Yeah i'm not sure if my kc 100w are street legal, they are brighter than the high beams. Not sure why they are classified as fog lights.
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Old 02-03-2011, 08:13 PM   #8
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In could be wrong, but usually fog lights are 55-60 watt, driving lights are 85 watt, and off-road lights are 100 watt and beyond. Also the factory fog wiring harness...I wouldn't put anything above 55-60 watts on them. Driving lights and off-road lights need heavier wire.
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In could be wrong, but usually fog lights are 55-60 watt, driving lights are 85 watt, and off-road lights are 100 watt and beyond. Also the factory fog wiring harness...I wouldn't put anything above 55-60 watts on them. Driving lights and off-road lights need heavier wire.

Mine didnt come with fog lights so i bought a pair from kc with its own wiring and fuses. They called it their slimlight 100w fog lights. They have 100w driving and 130w long range.
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That's cool, Mike. I was responding to the OP about using factory wiring for something other than fogs...and trying to straighten out the confusion between fog/driving/off-road designations.
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FOG lights are YELLOW....don't let anyone else try to convince you that white lights are FOG lights, they aren't White lights are DRIVING lights and reflect back on any fog, low clouds, steam, etc. and do not penetrate. YELLOW lights don't reflect back but have limited distance range...hence the difference between FOG and LONG DISTANCE.
Fog lights DO NOT have to be yellow. That is a common misconception. A properly manufactured fog light is designed to throw a low, wide beam, so as not to reflect the light back into the driver's eyes.

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"Yellow" fog lights are actually just filtered white lights. Since the filtering naturally reduces the emission of light, it does not boost its power to cut through mist.
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The old wives' tale that yellow fog lights give you greater visibility over white or blue ones is just not true. The premise of that superstition, that yellow light waves are long enough to pass through water particles without reflecting back into the driver's eyes, is based on a misinterpretation of Lord Rayleigh's principle of light scattering. As it turns out, the water particles in fog and mist are entirely too large to have an effect on any light waves from fog lights, be they yellow, white, blue or even green. In other words, any fog light that is properly mounted and aimed is effective, so don't worry about the color.
Normal headlights or driving lights have a much higher beam pattern and much of the light is bounced back off the fog/rain particles and reflected back into the driver's eyes.

Although fog lights can be yellow, the yellow/amber color actually blocks some of the light coming through the lens.

I prefer a good quality white fog light.

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here's what i use for my windshield lights and i have another one for when i mount my rock lights.. if you have the blanks in your dash, pop those out and these snap in nicely..

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