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Old 03-27-2013, 08:50 PM   #1
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Ford 8.8 vs. Dana 60

I am looking into replacing the Dana 35 w/either the Ford 8.8 or the Dana 60? Reading the thread on considering the 8.8 swap, I checked out east coast gear supply. I built both axles to my specs and both were just over 3 grand. Who has ran a Dana 60/Ford 8.8 in the rear and are they about the same or is 1 better than the other. Opinions on both as I am new to the Jeep scene. Also looking at running 35's here shortly. This Jeep will be rock crawling in the future and is not my daily driver.

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Old 03-27-2013, 09:37 PM   #2
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The dana 60 is stronger then the 8.8 by a hair. I cant find the exact chart for it but I remember the 8.8 being in between the dana 44 and the dana 60 but being closer to the dana 60 in strenght.

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The issue here is the width of the axle. How are you building an 8.8 to cost 3 grand? A built 8.8 is about equal to a good stock 60. The 60 is full width however while the 8.8 is near stock width. You gota think about your state laws, if you want it to be road legal etc. what size tire do you want to run? If 35s like you said are the max a stock 8.8 will be plenty.
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I hear that their is quite a bit of modding to fit a 60 underneath. I can't remember all the details, but the pumpkin doesn't fit under the gas tank I don't think.
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I hear that their is quite a bit of modding to fit a 60 underneath. I can't remember all the details, but the pumpkin doesn't fit under the gas tank I don't think.
He would probably need a small stretch or gas tank relocation. Also the d60 is big and fat. Not worth the clearance loss on 35s.
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The issue here is the width of the axle. How are you building an 8.8 to cost 3 grand? A built 8.8 is about equal to a good stock 60. The 60 is full width however while the 8.8 is near stock width. You gota think about your state laws, if you want it to be road legal etc. what size tire do you want to run? If 35s like you said are the max a stock 8.8 will be plenty.
Thanks for the info and duly noted. Like I said, new to the Jeep scene and looking at so much out there for a replacement of the dana 35, not sure which way to go for the rear end. A built 8.8 from east coast gear supply with all the good stuff was 3 grand that was a direct bolt in. I could be wrong. So would you suggest the local junkyard for an 8.8 out of an explorer and rebuild it? Looking for something I can bolt right in w/spring perches, brackets (track bar etc...). Thanks to all who replied.
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IRON ROCK OFF ROAD: TJ Ford 8.8 Axle Swap Bracket Kit

The biggest thing you will run into with a D60 is that the bolt pattern will be different in the rear vs what you've got up front if you plan to keep the 30. 8.8 has the same bolt pattern. A salvage yard 8.8 is an easier swap. Disc brakes from later model years, grind off perches, weld on new brackets from the above link, make provisions for the parking brake if you want to reuse it and if you're lucky enough to find an 8.8 with the same gear ratio as you have now, you're done. Also, you WILL need an aftermarket diff cover. The stock one is like tin foil. Depending on what gears you have now and you're going to run bigger tires, you will likely want to budget deeper gears and lockers if you're wanting to play in the rocks.

If you're running 35s there is absolutely no need what-so-ever to run the Super 8.8 kit, however you will want to beef up your front axle. I'm not a fan of the coast side gears of a low pinion D30, thus I would look to see if you can find a HP30 out of an XJ.
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Old 03-28-2013, 06:24 AM   #8
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Myself l, I am building an 8.8. I picked this one up for $100 and it came with the new pinion yoke which is $50.

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My local drive line shop is going to rebuild, regear to 4.56, and install locker. I will install the Artec truss kit and new brake hardware. The biggest factor in cost right now is which locker I decide to use.
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The issue here is the width of the axle. The 60 is full width however while the 8.8 is near stock width. You gota think about your state laws, if you want it to be road legal etc. what size tire do you want to run? If 35s like you said are the max a stock 8.8 will be plenty.
This right here; if you're lucky enough to live where it doesn't matter, then you have nothing to worry about. But some places, like here in PA, a wider axle like the D60 will be hard to keep legal.

Plus, as it's already been said, the D60 is quite large for only 35s.
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if I was going to get a D60, I'd get a D60u out of a 99+ E350. 32-spline shafts stock, capable of accepting 35-spline, 8x6.5" pattern, full float and a smooth bottom pumpkin. the gears suck, but you'd regear & install a locker anyway.

more info on that axle: 2000 E350 Dana 60 questions - Pirate4x4.Com : 4x4 and Off-Road Forum

that said, you'd have to be running ~38s-40s to justify that. that means a frame stretch, fuel tank relocation, shock outboarding and whole big can of worms.

for 35's, a Ford 8.8 will suffice just fine, weigh less, smaller in profile, same bolt pattern and close to the same width. Add a Super88 kit and you'll never have a problem with strength or the c-clips.
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Thanks for the info and duly noted. Like I said, new to the Jeep scene and looking at so much out there for a replacement of the dana 35, not sure which way to go for the rear end. A built 8.8 from east coast gear supply with all the good stuff was 3 grand that was a direct bolt in. I could be wrong. So would you suggest the local junkyard for an 8.8 out of an explorer and rebuild it? Looking for something I can bolt right in w/spring perches, brackets (track bar etc...). Thanks to all who replied.
Well personally I am building an 8.8 for much less. I know you can get one from ECGS but if you are adding everything under the sun of course it will cost more. For 35s you don't need the super kit or shafts at all. If you have a local shop try and see what they want for a similar setup if you provide the axle.
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Alright, so sounds like the D60 is not the option and the 8.8 is the way to go. This is what I was looking for. People to help me out with this decision as to there is so many mods you have at your fingertips. Like I said, only going to run 35's and any bigger, I start cutting, hacking up my jeep and that is not what I'm after. 8.8 is simple to some degree and is the better option. I want to run 4.88 gears and not sure of which locker will be installed yet. After the rear end gets done, I will be replacing the front with a D44. Thanks again to everyone for their input.

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