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Old 06-11-2007, 09:37 AM   #1
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Found IT!

I found the Wrangler I want to get. It has everything that I was searching for and more.

The specific Wrangler I found has the hard top and soft top. My question is and from what other Jeep Wrangler enthusiast have told me, swapping out the tops is a pain in the a$$.

Is this true? It currently has the hardtop on it but I'd love to put the soft top on it for the summer. It's a 2000 Wrangler.

Any extra information would be appreciated. Thanks.

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I found the Wrangler I want to get. It has everything that I was searching for and more.

The specific Wrangler I found has the hard top and soft top. My question is and from what other Jeep Wrangler enthusiast have told me, swapping out the tops is a pain in the ass.

Is this true? It currently has the hardtop on it but I'd love to put the soft top on it for the summer. It's a 2000 Wrangler.

Any extra information would be appreciated. Thanks.
I just did mine yesterday for the first time. I'd say it's a PITA the first time.

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Old 06-11-2007, 09:47 AM   #3
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Its not hard. Id rather have both if I could choose. Hard tops are great in winter. Only real hard part between switching the two is the weight and storage of the hardtop. Usually takes 2 people, and quite a bit of space, to take it off and store it.
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You can buy a hard top hoist and hang it inside your garage if you have the space. This makes it much easier to get the heavy hard top on and off without the help of another person.

This is what I do and I just let it hang there until im ready to replace it.
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Old 06-11-2007, 11:27 AM   #5
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yah im with farmboy.. my hoist makes it simple to take and put the hard top back on..

once u figure out how to put both tops on.. itll be easy..

my sahara came with both tops.. and i never have disconnected the softtop.. which i wouldnt recommend takin it off when puttin on ur hardtop
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i never have disconnected the softtop.. which i wouldnt recommend takin it off when puttin on ur hardtop
so it's ok to install the hardtop and leave the softtop installed at the same time? I thought that couldn't (or shouldn't) be done?
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Jeep says DO NOT do it. Weather or not you can, I dunno.
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Cool cool!

Yeah I would think that leaving the soft top on all the time would be a good idea. I hear painful stories of trying to install and re-install. I hope the Jeep I get has it already installed for me so that I don't have to do it.

I don't have the space for the hardtop hoist, I'm going to physically take it off and store in the garage somewhere or in the shed. Believe me I have thought about it.

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I don't have the space for the hardtop hoist, I'm going to physically take it off and store in the garage somewhere or in the shed. Believe me I have thought about it.
Just make sure someone helps lift it.
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The hoist doesnt take much space at all. What I did was mount 4 lag screw eye bolts in the ceiling. Then..after the top was unbolted...I slid some 2x2's about 5' long under the top. I'm not at home so I dont have the measurements but they are the width of the hard top plus about 4" on each side. All you have to do is lift the top up enough to slide the 2x2's under. I put one at the rear of the top and one right behind the doors. The part of the 2x2 that sticks past the top on each side has a hole drilled through it with an eye bolt in it. Once you have the 2x2's in place..I run a strap from the eye bolt on the 2x2 to the eye bolt in the ceiling. I didnt use the ratchet type, I used the type that you pull to tighten and press with your thumb to release. You only have to lift it a few inches, just enough to drive the Jeep out from underneath. Once the Jeep is out, I put a blanket accross the top of the hard top and tighten the straps until its all the way to the ceiling.

One other thing I ended up doing was I lined the 2x2's up with the factory holes where the hard top bolts to the Jeep. Once the were lined up, I drilled a hole in the 2x2 and put bolt through the hard top and 2x2 to keep it from sliding (just a little security).
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so it's ok to install the hardtop and leave the softtop installed at the same time? I thought that couldn't (or shouldn't) be done?
People who have done that have reported rubbing holes in the soft top. It takes 5" to take it off (2" if you have disconnects), just pull it.
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Old 06-11-2007, 01:09 PM   #12
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Sell the hardtop.Put the soft top on and use the money from the hardtop for modifications.I run a soft top with half steel doors all winter with no problems.
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Old 06-11-2007, 01:31 PM   #13
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The soft top isn't any colder in the winter than the hard top. The heater in the Jeep works great.

The best part about the hard top is being able to clean the windows at the gas station. If you live in an area that gets a lot of wet snow (and mag chloride) the windows get mucked up quick. You are supposed to clean the soft top windows with a hose and a soft cloth to minimize scratches. Tough to do when it is below freezing. That is the main advantage of running a hard top in the winter.
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Old 06-11-2007, 03:03 PM   #14
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I bought a hoist for the hardtop. 1-man removal or install...about 10-minutes with some practice. In retrospect, I would have built the hoist myself. The design could definitely be better.

I had more posted, but TxFireman got in ahead of me and said it much better.
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From my experience, I would not keep the soft top on with the hard top on. The soft top is not that tough to swap on or off. I can't use a hoist(low garage ceiling) so I use a cart that can sit my hard top on the back end for storage.
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I have only had my soft top for about 2 months and I LOVE it now that its warm again.... I plan on just taking the fabric part of it outa the jeep and leave all the hardware folded down...I havent tryed it yet but it all looks like it woulds clear
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I have only had my soft top for about 2 months and I LOVE it now that its warm again.... I plan on just taking the fabric part of it outa the jeep and leave all the hardware folded down...I havent tryed it yet but it all looks like it woulds clear
Why not just take the entire soft top off the jeep???
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I have only had my soft top for about 2 months and I LOVE it now that its warm again.... I plan on just taking the fabric part of it outa the jeep and leave all the hardware folded down...I havent tryed it yet but it all looks like it woulds clear
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Why not just take the entire soft top off the jeep???
Buster, you got the right idea. It is very easy to just disconnect those pins or little screws and keep all the hardware assembled and take it ALL off together. I definitely prefer this method.
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Old 06-11-2007, 08:46 PM   #19
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my top it was folded back so it stayed all the way back behind the seat.. no problem with the hard top, but i never had any windows or anything around the doors so i dont know how they connect. Woudlnt a viking top fit if its up and the hard top on top of the viking top?
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They even make quick disconnects for the soft top hardware as well. They are pretty cheap. That's the great thing about Jeeps. If you've got a problem, odds are that someone has designed a solution for it already.

Also, if you get a soft top boot, you can leave the soft top installed nicely with the hard top.
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Taking off/putting on the hardtop is easy. Takes all of 15 minutes. I don't know why anyone would say its hard to do. It would be a pain if you take it on and off all the time, but not twice a year. You do need two people, not because of the weight as much of how awkward (big) it is. I would not keep the soft top on unless you have a boot. It is easy to take off. I would keep both tops, I swap mine in and out with the seasons. I like both tops, but I'm always excited to get the soft top back on. This also increases the life of your soft top by A LOT. If you store it during the winter, it avoids the harsh weathering of the cold months.
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Two questions:

Where do you get the quick connects?

Where do you get the soft top boot?
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Two questions:

Where do you get the quick connects?

Where do you get the soft top boot?
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RUBICONVICT as you said man.. its hard to pick up because its so aquard.. gotta remove the screws that seem like they are the wrong thread size because they never unbolt easily no matter how loose they are, then you gotta lift it over the tire and luckily you wont have the sharp corners killing your fingers until you pull it up and over the tire and then lay it down on the floor. My last time removing it was pain in the behind..


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