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Old 02-07-2013, 09:14 PM   #1
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Frameless Vs. replacement?

What does everyone prefer? Frameless soft top made with sail cloth? Or a replacement top such as quadratop? Opinions wanted. Thank you

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Old 02-07-2013, 10:47 PM   #3
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I had the rampage frameless on a previous jeep and I really liked it.
It was very nice to go from full top to safari top in less than 10 minutes (including storing the windows in the top section), it was louder, it did leak more but over all I did prefer it to the factory top.
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Old 02-07-2013, 10:54 PM   #4
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What does everyone prefer? Frameless soft top made with sail cloth? Or a replacement top such as quadratop? Opinions wanted. Thank you
I had a bestop trek top nx on my last 97. It was great quality and easy to use. Good price too. do some on line searching and with the right website, coupon codes, free shipping, etc. you can find them just under 500 bucks with everything included
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Old 02-08-2013, 07:57 AM   #5
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I had a bestop trek top nx on my last 97. It was great quality and easy to use. Good price too. do some on line searching and with the right website, coupon codes, free shipping, etc. you can find them just under 500 bucks with everything included
Was it louder than a normal top?
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Was it louder than a normal top?
Louder then a hard top, yes....louder than any other soft top....no
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Old 02-08-2013, 08:07 AM   #7
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my frameless is awesome. no leaks, and just as quite as the hard top i had on my previous jeep. quick and easy to remove. if you're going soft, you can't go wrong.
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I went from having a factory hard top / soft top to just a rampage frameless top. Much quieter than a standard soft too. Louder than a hard top. Recently took an 8 hr road trip with the rampage. 8 hrs at 80 mph, the wife and I couldn't talk as much but did have conversation and listen to music the whole time.
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Old 02-08-2013, 08:15 AM   #9
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Yeah I already have a factory soft top, never had a hard top so not worried about it being just as loud as a soft. I like the look of a frameless and the functionality, and If you guys are saying its not any louder and doesn't leak I might be sold. Thanks for the input everyone.
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Old 02-08-2013, 08:17 AM   #10
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I've been contemplating the same thing. My Bestop seams (where the zippers are sewn in) have pulled apart after years of sun exposure. Been debating about the Replace-a-top or frameless.
Running a new Safari top for now. Great open feel, now that door surrounds and frame are off.
FYI, back seat headroom is low with safari top, which will probly be an issue with frameless too.
Saw a post on here someplace about a Viking frameless top. Looked like good quality.
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Old 02-08-2013, 08:25 AM   #11
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Bought one of these crossbars to bolt on just under the back edge of safari top to prevent flapping, but ended up just using a ratchet strap across the rear instead.
May still install this thing, but it'd be permanent, so I have to figure out where to attach it exactly (across the rear corners or further forward...)

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I got the rugged ridge frameless and I love it. It came with that crossbar built in but the windshield header was a separate purchase? I question your logic RR. There's another thread on here showing a gap on the header bar that generates alot of wind noise at highway speeds.
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I love my dad's Soft topper frameless really easy on and off no leaks like his hard top (he had an best top two piece) If I stall ran a top I would go frameless.
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Old 02-08-2013, 08:42 AM   #14
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I just bought a Bestop NXT Trek top,I love it. Getting rid of the frame really opens up the back of the Jeep. plus, it has the flip back sunroof which I think is really cool. I was torn between the Rampage bowless and the Bestop NXT Trektop and in the end I'm glad I went with the Bestop.
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Old 02-08-2013, 09:11 AM   #15
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Only drawback to the frameless is you can't roll up the back window. Other than that I've been very happy with the trektop.
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Only drawback to the frameless is you can't roll up the back window. Other than that I've been very happy with the trektop.
Mine has straps on the tailgate bar. I haven't tried to roll up my window because it's been too cold. I'll check here in a bit to see if it can...
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Yup, RR rolls up.
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Old 02-08-2013, 06:10 PM   #18
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Thanks every one for the feed back. Looks like I got some decisions to make
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Yup, RR rolls up.
That's cool. My bestop doesn't have that option. I've rigged it before, but the weight of the bar tended to dent the clear vinyl. The quality of my bestop is fantastic, but I REALLY like the options rugged ridge provides. I knew you could store the side windows, but had no idea you could roll up the rear. That's a definite plus.
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That's cool. My bestop doesn't have that option. I've rigged it before, but the weight of the bar tended to dent the clear vinyl. The quality of my bestop is fantastic, but I REALLY like the options rugged ridge provides. I knew you could store the side windows, but had no idea you could roll up the rear. That's a definite plus.
It's a great top for the money. I put a review of it up on the tube 'cause I didn't see any. It hasn't leaked and it fits TIGHT. It took two of us to get the tailgate shut on the initial install. I'm still scared to open up the tailgate until it gets above 70°. The only issues I had with it both involved the header bar A.) not coming with the top. B.) the way the top snaps into the front generates alot of wind noise. I would have preferred the other style where the vinyl is secured underneath by screws.
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Softopper here. On and off in about 5 minutes. Windows can be stored overhead. Top comes with everything you need to install it, and replacement parts for everything are available. US made (in Colorado), only comes in sailcloth and you get to pick the color.

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I value my rear seat head space, I've always stayed away from the frameless for that reason. I also have a rear bucket seat instead of the stock bench
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Old 02-11-2013, 08:26 AM   #23
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Yep. The lack of rear headroom has been the reason for my frameless hesitancy too.
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Y'all have rear seats?!?!?
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Old 02-11-2013, 08:59 AM   #25
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Just ordered a Supertop NX after running just a safari top on my 06 LJ for two Summers.
I chose the Supertop NX for factory design/hardware and having extra overhead in my rear cargo area. Initially I never liked the factory soft top look but chose the function. Plus after seeing some nice Jeeps with the factory soft top it grew on me.

Definitely beats being caught in a rain storm with just a safari top and still has the ability to remove the windows.
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With the Rampage bowless do you need to use the factory door surrounds?
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With the frameless top, can you take it off easily?
I like the option of being able to drop the top but being able to put the top up if the sun gets too hot on the trail like with the factory soft top....
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With the Rampage bowless do you need to use the factory door surrounds?
Yes.

I have the Rampage frameless and it is great.
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With the frameless top, can you take it off easily?
I like the option of being able to drop the top but being able to put the top up if the sun gets too hot on the trail like with the factory soft top....

Softopper windows come out or install in about 2 minutes, complete top comes off or goes on in about 5 minutes.

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