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Old 04-02-2011, 04:18 PM   #1
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Front drive shaft

I recently took front drive shaft off due to squealing from the cv or angry sparrows as people like to call it. The noise went away with the front off. Now comes the question should upgrade to a Tom woods driveshaft or get the stock one rebuilt. Its in a 2004 wrangler with 60,000 miles thank you
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Old 04-02-2011, 04:53 PM   #2
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depends on how fat your wallet is..

fat = replace
thin =repair

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Old 04-02-2011, 06:25 PM   #3
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depends on how fat your wallet is..

fat = replace
thin =repair
Got about 400 to play with
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Old 04-03-2011, 06:11 AM   #4
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Have it rebuilt. Had mine done and it was cheap
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Old 04-03-2011, 08:37 AM   #5
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No need for a replacement unless you have alot of lift.

I just had my rear Tom woods rebuilt for 220. 3 new spicer ujoints, rebuilt cv, new boot, and rebalanced.

Now need to do my front. Just hate having to remove my full skid to get to the transfer bolts.
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Old 04-03-2011, 02:13 PM   #6
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I just got done this exact item in question.
My experience follow Stu's recommendations and pictorials to get a good outcome.
Go with all Dana Spicer parts.

My total for the centering ball at Napa was $60.00
I already had new U-joints.
About 6-7hrs. for whole job.

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No need for a replacement unless you have alot of lift.

I just had my rear Tom woods rebuilt for 220. 3 new spicer ujoints, rebuilt cv, new boot, and rebalanced.

Now need to do my front. Just hate having to remove my full skid to get to the transfer bolts.
Have 3 1/2 inch lift with 33s so not that big
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Have it rebuilt. Had mine done and it was cheap
I'm gonna get a price quote to-marrow and let you guys hear the price tell me if it sounds reasonable
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Old 04-03-2011, 04:25 PM   #9
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I had mine done at fleet pride. New cv joint and all new u joints under $150.
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I had mine done at fleet pride. New cv joint and all new u joints under $150.
Shop wants 200 and that's to put grease cv on it. So I think it's reasonable. I just have to remember to grease it every oil change
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$200 to completely rebuild your front CV driveshaft is completely reasonable and is what I would do. As much as I really like Tom Wood and his awesome driveshafts, I did the same thing when my front DS CV joint went bad. It just doesn't make sense to replace the entire thing when it can simply be rebuilt at way less cost.

HOWEVER, I would NOT go with greasable u-joints. It sounds like they are pushing greasable u-joints but I would instead go with sealed u-joints like Spicer's 5-785x. I stopped using greasable u-joints years ago because not only are they a PITA to keep greased, they are not as strong or as durable as a sealed u-joint is. U-joints with a single grease zerk have to have grease channels drilled through the body which weakens it so to me, a greasable u-joint is not the best type to use unless you are constantly doing deep soupy mud bogs. Spicer's "triple-sealed" 5-785x is probably about the most durable and long-lasting u-joint for its price of any of them, Spicer calls the new series it is a member of it's best u-joint ever.

I only get new driveshafts from Tom when I manage to break what I have due to some "unusual" event and it can't be rebuilt or I need something different. I had Tom build a new driveshaft several months ago for me and this time I went with two 1350 (huge) u-joints up front and a 1330 in the rear, all Spicers. I don't think I'll be needing a rear driveshaft for a long time though I carry the old rebuilt one as a spare.
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$200 to completely rebuild your front CV driveshaft is completely reasonable and is what I would do. As much as I really like Tom Wood and his awesome driveshafts, I did the same thing when my front DS CV joint went bad. It just doesn't make sense to replace the entire thing when it can simply be rebuilt at way less cost.

HOWEVER, I would NOT go with greasable u-joints. It sounds like they are pushing greasable u-joints but I would instead go with sealed u-joints like Spicer's 5-785x. I stopped using greasable u-joints years ago because not only are they a PITA to keep greased, they are not as strong or as durable as a sealed u-joint is. U-joints with a single grease zerk have to have grease channels drilled through the body which weakens it so to me, a greasable u-joint is not the best type to use unless you are constantly doing deep soupy mud bogs. Spicer's "triple-sealed" 5-785x is probably about the most durable and long-lasting u-joint for its price of any of them, Spicer calls the new series it is a member of it's best u-joint ever.

I only get new driveshafts from Tom when I manage to break what I have due to some "unusual" event and it can't be rebuilt or I need something different. I had Tom build a new driveshaft several months ago for me and this time I went with two 1350 (huge) u-joints up front and a 1330 in the rear, all Spicers. I don't think I'll be needing a rear driveshaft for a long time though I carry the old rebuilt one as a spare.
I told the guy I just wanted the constant velocity joint greaseable where the ball it on the end not the u joints. I also specified I wanted splicer u joints
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All the CVs I've seen had a grease zerk on them. If you don't regularly do deep soupy mud, I'd insist on a sealed u-joint like the Spicer 5-785x which is a much stronger and durable u-joint than its greasable counterpart like the Spicer 5-153x.
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All the CVs I've seen had a grease zerk on them. If you don't regularly do deep soupy mud, I'd insist on a sealed u-joint like the Spicer 5-785x which is a much stronger and durable u-joint than its greasable counterpart like the Spicer 5-153x.
Ok thank you Jerry the advice is greatly appreciated
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I recently took front drive shaft off due to squealing from the cv or angry sparrows as people like to call it. The noise went away with the front off. Now comes the question should upgrade to a Tom woods driveshaft or get the stock one rebuilt. Its in a 2004 wrangler with 60,000 miles thank you
Oh no, my 2001 Sahara has 59,000 driven miles with probably 40,000 towed miles and I didn't know my drive shafts were at the rebuild stage yet. Guess I'd better do some close examination from underneath.
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Old 04-05-2011, 08:22 PM   #16
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Will my 2001 Sahara have a cv in the front drive shaft? All I can see is a normal u-joint on each end of the drive shaft. ??? Why did the first part of this paragraph come out so dark print, at least where I'm typing.
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Yes all TJ front driveshafts have a CV at the end closest to the transfer case.
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Old 04-06-2011, 01:49 PM   #18
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Thanks Jerry, I may be in trouble. After 59,000 miles I thought I had found and been greasing all zerks under there but I don't remember finding anything back close to the transfer case. Keep my fingers crossed, start greasing it, and hope no damage done so far.
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I'm not even sure if the front driveshaft's OE Spicer CV has a grease zerk Gorving. I know Spicer's aftermarket CVs do but I can't remember if the OE CV is greasable or not. I replaced mine so many years ago on my previous TJ that I don't remember.
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I just relpaced mine and the stock one was not greasable. My new spicer one definitely is though.

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