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Old 03-28-2007, 01:01 AM   #1
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full traction 3in econo vs.dpg deluxe kit for ddtj

comparing the two on another forum. I was wondering if any one here had any experience ? This is for a 99% street driven tj.

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in my opinion OME is the best lift kitfor the TJ. the onroad handlingis muchbetter than with a stock tj. also the offroad handling.

i drove TJs with the following suspensions before i made my decision for OME:
2.5 Rancho, 2" Procomp, 2.5" Skyjacker, 3.5" RE and the 2.5" OME.

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Old 03-28-2007, 07:14 AM   #3
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wow..
i guess you've experienced just about every major manufacturer in the lift industry. keep us in the loop when your OME kit gets in. i'm ordering mine thru DPG as soon as Uncle Sam send me my refund.....
still a lil iffy about doing the install myself.
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stevin, I did my OME all by my self with ZERO assistance and I did it in less than a day, and that includes a run to get some lunch and a rental tool.
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yes, but i have ZERO experience...
but plenty of common sense
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I installed my OME kit with the help of someone that knew nothing about vehicles either. It took us all day but we were able to figure it out. It was a learning experience and I would have no problem doing it again. I liked that it came in a complete kit because I didn't have to figure out what I needed. There are diagrams with for most of the stuff.
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yes, but i have ZERO experience...
but plenty of common sense
Then you're qualified.

Read the directions and find some writeups. It REALLY is Easy. Just have the basic tools (wrenches, hammer, floor jack, jackstands). You can get a spring compressor from Auto zone as a rental (once you return it, you get your $$ back, and they do this ALL the time).
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I guess I'm gonna sway towards the deluxe kit

I have personally ripped off all the other brands of lift kits in exchange for the OME equipped deluxe kit. The ride is absolutely amazing. I have the DPG super ultimate kit on my wifes jeep and love driving it no matter what the conditions. The best part about DPGs kit selection is the ease of upgrading down the line. Remind Dirk you are a faithful deluxe kit owner and you get better deals having purchased from him before.
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Old 03-28-2007, 11:54 AM   #9
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thanks for all the replies ! Stevin an install is pretty easy .Make sure you pb blast all nuts and bolts the night b4 you should'nt have a problem. air tools help alot.but its doable with hand tools.
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thanks for the encouragement..!!!!
hearing everyone talk so highly about OME & DPG makes it that much harder to wait for my refund....
thanks guyz...

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let us know how you make out.........
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HOw much lift does the OME kit give and how much?
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Lift height is jeep specific. It will depend on how much sprung weight you have on your jeep. You can check out the specific suspension systems on Dirks website.

http://www.dpgoffroad.com/TJ_LJ_OME_Kits.htm

The best part is getting the proper spring rates for your specific vehicle. That is something you get from DPG ONLY!
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for that price tag, Id stick with RE.
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for that price tag, Id stick with RE.
of course you would. Because that is what you run on your jeep and RE is the best since well... RE.
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so the starters OME kit is 659.00 and fits 31s.. thats 1/2"-1" lift?
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Old 03-28-2007, 11:33 PM   #16
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I run the 3" FT lift. It's not bad, but you get what you pay for. I've added RE control arms and Teraflex track bars. the kit just comes with the basics. If I had it to do again, I'd get the 3.5" RE kit.
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Old 03-28-2007, 11:46 PM   #17
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FT? never heard of it.. linky? please
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not becasue its what i run. quadratec has a OME 2inch kit listed for 700 bucks. stock springs and spacers will flex as much and ride almost as nice with good quality shocks.


im not saying its not a good product, im sayin its overpriced. no one complains about OME products.
you can get great quality products like Full traction or Rubicon Express for less. my RE 3.5 super flex kit with shocks, RE adjustable trac bar, quick discos, brake lines, tc drop. was 850 from DC4wd.com. my kit came out to about 4.5"
The OME 3inch kit doesnt come with much and you pay as much.

From talking with other RE and Full traction owners all say they ride better then stock.

Your not gonna see a drastic differnce between a few jeeps with the same kit. 1/2'' to 1 inch at most.
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Honestly, I don't think you'll find a whole lot of people who say their ride is worse than stock for only a 3" or so lift. I won't say that about OME because my experience was with a seriously worn 97 suspension and it seriously WAS better.

The basic OME kit will give you about 2.5" or so, not the 1/2 to 1".

I'm speaking from experience on this. I bought the basic kit from DPG because that was all my budget would allow at that time and I honestly didn't think I'd go bigger than 31's.

I got 3.25" out of my lift over my previous (admittedly sagging a bit setup), and that was with rocker guards, Kilby tank, and steering skid (soft top 2.5L). I compared my TJ to a similiarly equipped 2000 TJ and I sat about .75" lower than his setup, so that would become about a 2.5" lift.

After wheeling that setup on 30" BFG AT's, my wife wanted me to get taller, and have more traction, so 33's became the new limit. After the JKS BL and MML, I'm now sitting higher and happy on my 33's (along with the regear, alloy shafts, and lockers).

THEN I realized that my axle in front was outta whack, and finally got clearance for the front trackbar. 4 months later, my rear trackbar bracket came off cuz I didn't do something right, and I just ordered the JKS REAR TB.

I now have the ultimate kit (already had the discos) but pieced it together. Was it cheap? Not really, and I would have been better off buying it at once, but I did what I could when I could.

OME/ARB/IPF and JKS have proven themselves to be quality products with little to no complaint about durability or quality. The only complaints I hear about them are their price.

When you hear arguments about the price of a product, that's one thing, but when you hear arguments about the quality of a product, you really need to look at that product. Some think the quality sucks but they beat the hell out of their stuff. Those that say those same products are the greatest thing since sliced bread probably aren't as hard on it.

With OME/JKS/IPF, I simply have NOT heard those quality arguments going on. For that reason, I spent the extra money to get the quality products because I only wanted to buy them once.

That I got it all from DPG Offroad only speaks about the best place I found to deal with that is close to me (saving me $$ on shipping). He's from the same hometown as my wife, and that sealed the deal for me.

When it comes time for adjustable control arms, I plan to spend the $$ and get the JKS ones over the RE because JKS's quality has me convinced, and Dirk will get that business from me too.

So if you want to save your $$, run RE, and have no problems with it, that's wonderful and I'm very happy it is working well for you. I, however, have no problems telling people the OME and JKS setups are not cheap, but you sure get what you pay for.
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simply said......
you buy cheap, you buy twice
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In a sense, yes. But RE isn't cheap either, it's just less costly than OME.

I have seen quality debates about some aspects of the RE, whether it is ride, joints, etc. Haven't heard a peep about OME and JKS.

I'll pay more for something good that nobody is debating the technical merits of.
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ErickPL looks like your wife got bit by the bug first heh?
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oh, i agree with you 100%....
RE is not a cheap product by any means.
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ErickPL looks like your wife got bit by the bug first heh?
Kinda, but she regrets it now.

We were going up a steep climb with open diffs and 30's. Passenger front was not spinning. Driver front was kicking up a storm. She thought we needed more power from the 2.5 (engine upgrade shot down quick tho), so regearing came into it. Mentioned lockers would give traction and power to both sides for bigger tires, but to do so required upgraded shafts.

$3000+ later....

Now if I could just get some justificaiton for the bellyup, adj ca's, cage, etc, I'd be really happy. heheh
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very well put eric, like i said im not talking bad about OME products, i dont hear bad thing about them. But i dont hear bad things about Full traction or RE either. Im sure they are out there but ive yet to see a unhappy RE FT owner. im not the richest guy in the world and i like to get the biggest bang for my buck.

glad this didnt turn into a pissin match because that wasnt my intent.

if you come across any threads with problematic RE or FT systems please post them up. I thought i did a lot of research when i went with RE but maybe i didnt do enough. ive had my RE kit for almost a year and i beat the hell out of it. well as hard as my dana turdy5 will let me. only issue i have had is my trac bar rubber joint at the axle loosened up and RE gave me a new one free shipped to my door in a couple days. (my jeep is not a daily driver so i didnt have them overnight it)
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I didn't want it to be a pissing match either. My main observations about the RE's are really about the joints and how stiff it can feel.

Mine is a semi daily driver, so I can live w/o the Jeep while parts come in, but for those who use their Jeep as a DD, that could become a factor in deciding. That could mean some down time that they couldn't afford.

I think we're approaching this issue from different angles, but saying the same thing.
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yup, i agree. now as far as stiff joints i dont get it. In my case i can flex till a coil pops out. now JKS uses a johnnie joint right??
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now JKS uses a johnnie joint right??
Yes. They use the johnny joint on the frame end of their track bars.
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if I weld the rear track bar bracket can I upgrade later ? It's just tacking the nut and bolt correct ?
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It depends. If you get the OME style track bar bracket and weld it on there you are stuck that way. Welding that bracket means you won't require any nuts and bolts. If you install a new drive shaft and SYE you need to rotate the pinion up. That requires a different style track bar bracket that you can get from RE of JKS. If you can install the track bar bracket the way it is supposed to be on there then don't weld anything if you think you will do more later.

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